A question about genuine new HSV spare parts.

[Calaber]

By law, car manufacturers in this Country are required to hold stocks of spare parts for at least ten years after a model ceases production.

Does this apply to HSV? Is it possible to obtain all genuine HSV parts for models up to ten years old?

[stocky]

i think holden keep 1 of every part somewhere at least, but that wouldnt mean they have a second one available for sale

[Kikki]

Find that hard to believe, if so then they cant be doing a good job of keeping there stock.

We were told by Craig's boss many Holden parts are becoming obsolete which is making it harder & harder for his work to supply & fit genuine Holden parts, and that was just after trying to get door handles for the VT (97).

eBay however.....they have everything lol

[vnv8driver]

You can buy genuine hsv parts no problem but you have to have proof of ownership of a genuine hsv, and you can only get parts of that model.

[vn calais manual]

ill have to get onto this, i need a centre cap for my vs clubsport's tri spoke mag. :|

[CSP]

ill have to get onto this, i need a centre cap for my vs clubsport's tri spoke mag. :|

They may not have any genuine ones... VS is more than 10 years old.

[minux]

Has this law always been around? I can't understand why as the government altered laws so that spare parts could be replicated without fear of lawsuits on copyright etc.

[BOGANV8]

Not to sure on OP question but i found out from holden the other day that if you need parts for a car 10yrs or older they go really cheap as holden want to get rid of surplus stock...

1. Customers car at work VP Commodore needed brake master cylinder rang Repco for a price $365.00 inc.. Holdens price $201.00 inc..

2. Customers car at work Vs Commodore need clutch master cyl Repco $385 inc Holdens Price $165 inc..

So sometimes its better to ring holden first to find out what they will sting you for something before trying aftermaket... Also heard that you can t get VN Panhard bushes anymore through holden too old...

[Cobez]

By law, car manufacturers in this Country are required to hold stocks of spare parts for at least ten years after a model ceases production.

Does this apply to HSV? Is it possible to obtain all genuine HSV parts for models up to ten years old?

About 9 months ago, i purchased a brand new genuine plastic VP GTS letterbox grille through a Holden dealership. Cost a pretty penny though. But as far as i have heard, you can still buy brand new genuine VP Senator bodykits etc. But they charge absoloutely STUPID prices for them. Around $2000 for the front bar, same for the rear bar and about the same for the side skirts. They last a long time though, whereas fibreglass doesn't.

[Calaber]

Has this law always been around? I can't understand why as the government altered laws so that spare parts could be replicated without fear of lawsuits on copyright etc.

I know that the law has been in existence for a number of years. It wasn't a problem once, when cars were much simpler and many parts carried over from model to model, but once the manufacturers started changing basic components between models, it became necessary to ensure that they carried adequate stocks for at least ten years.

Many of the more common parts will be available well over ten years after a model ceased production, but with the small production runs of most HSV models (compared to mainstream cars), I wondered if HSV is required to meet that requirement. I know that Holden supply most of the generic HSV parts - I recently purchased one myself, but those bits that signify an HSV, such as badges, grilles, body panels etc - how long before they cease being available?

[50LTRv8]

Not to sure on OP question but i found out from holden the other day that if you need parts for a car 10yrs or older they go really cheap as holden want to get rid of surplus stock...

1. Customers car at work VP Commodore needed brake master cylinder rang Repco for a price $365.00 inc.. Holdens price $201.00 inc..

2. Customers car at work Vs Commodore need clutch master cyl Repco $385 inc Holdens Price $165 inc..

So sometimes its better to ring holden first to find out what they will sting you for something before trying aftermaket... Also heard that you can t get VN Panhard bushes anymore through holden too old...

I have tried on this, calling holden and in all cases it was autopro that was simpler and cheaper to get the parts.

Case 1 Needed the regulator/bush kit for my VT altenator. Holden wanted a VIN, apparently there was 2 types and needed to know which one blah blah blah

Went into Autopro and asked and in 2 mins I had the part in my hand for less than the holden dealer.

Another thing I wanted was the power steering seals, the price here listed was about $25, I paid 45 cause apparently the Calais was different

50LTRv8

[Torquative]

Holden wanted a VIN, apparently there was 2 types and needed to know which one blah blah blah

in their defence tho if you've ever played with Microcat you find that it doesnt tell you in plain english, especially Holden which lists the variations as codes.

Microcat for Honda lists badges or stickers like VTEC or VTIR as Badge Type A, Badge Type B, Badge Type C. Doesnt even tell me what the badge says, just its location on the car and a type. Are you able to tell me going off that description which of those badges is black, silver or blue and what the badge acctually says if its pointing to the left side of the boot?

Microcat for Land Rover doesnt list the brake pads as "normal" or "brembo". It lists them as brake pads for NA 4.4 V8 on one page, then Supercharged V8 on the second page.

Problem is not all supercharged are fitted with Brembo but at the same time its not exactly an accessory. Some Supercharged Sports were fitted with Brembo from factory, others werent. It depended on the production week and plant as to what was fitted and the only way for me to tell what your Supercharged Range Rover Sport has is by VIN.

Sway bar bushes are the same, does the vehicle have Active Corner Enhancement or not? If you dont know how the hell am I supposed to know? Or remotes, where our cars are classified as "rest of world" and can be 315 or 433 mhz. ... but its just a remote??

What seems like a simple question to you or me can be made difficult by the tools supplied by manufacturer, I tried to get part numbers for my car off Microcat and found out Holden list the variations as codes which makes it worse.

Autopro/Repco etc go off catalogues put out by the part manufacturer and their not always 100% right. Lucky guess some times.

On the topic of the years and stuff be thankful we play with Australian cars because sourcing stuff for European cars is tough. Ive had a brake pedal pad on order for a 1999 BMW 318i since February, its only about to hit the Germany warehouse sometime in the next few weeks then will take 3 weeks to ship to Sydney.

[jules]

By law, car manufacturers in this Country are required to hold stocks of spare parts for at least ten years after a model ceases production.

there is no such law.

Has this law always been around? I can't understand why as the government altered laws so that spare parts could be replicated without fear of lawsuits on copyright etc.

there's two types of laws that apply - patent law, which is about the technology, and design law (copyright) which is about the shape/aesthetic qualities - e.g. tail lights, panels.

i think you may be right about the govt altering design laws to allow pattern (aftermarket) automotive parts, but patent law still applies. in most cases though, patents for car parts have expired so it's not an issue.

[Calaber]

[QUOTE=jules;846584]there is no such law.


My understanding is that local manufacturers and distributors of imported cars are required to take reasonable steps to ensure supplies of spare parts for vehicles up to ten years old. "Law" might be the wrong term, but I have read reference to this requirement in a number of motoring magazines and the local spare parts bloke at my Holden dealer has also advised me of the same requirement. I had to replace parts on my VR Commodore, which was a September 93 build, late in 2005. The parts were VR specific (can't think what they were now) and did not carry over to the VS. Chris informed me at the time that he thought I would be fortunate to find them new as they were over ten years old and dealers were no longer required by law to carry them, nor were parts warehouses.

[jules]

I had to replace parts on my VR Commodore...Chris informed me at the time that he thought I would be fortunate to find them new as they were over ten years old and dealers were no longer required by law to carry them, nor were parts warehouses.

i had similar hassles finding parts for my VN.

there's no law though, as there's no need for it. you can still get 2nd hand parts. there are heaps of products you can't get new replacement parts for, cars are not unique in that way. forcing companies to keep producing, more importantly, warehousing new spare parts that they may never sell would be fairly draconian.

[prestonM]

if you go to a dealer, ask them to do a dealer search on the part number, a dealer around australia is holding one they will be sure to give it to you..

but in order to order the lastest hsv spare parts you would need a build and tag number to purchase.

and because its a fairly old vehicle you cant expect gmh/hsv to produce such parts due to facts that its not a high selling item it use to be back in its days.. resulting to loss of profit

[Grennan]

Nice hole you dug there.

[Calaber]

How come everybody wants to dug up my old threads today? Let 'em lie.....