Malcolm Turnbull New Liberal Leader

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Well vote was done earlier, all I have to say is anything has to be better than Brendan Fraser, much like Kevin beasley, anything was better

[Julie]

lol well that backfired on Nelson didn't it!

[88GreenVN]

Nelson was just the stop gap. He was never going to an election as leader.

Labor were not scared of him - but they will know when Mr Billion slaps them around abit.

[MasterOfReality]

I wonder if the ALP are gonna have the cheek to have a go at Turnbull about being out of touch with the working class?

Given that Rudd's wife is extremely wealthy, it seems that his emotive bleats like working families is champagne socialism at its best.

I'm glad Turnbull got it. Nelson might have been a nice bloke and all, but he doesn't have the mongrel in him to be opposition leader.

[88GreenVN]

I'm glad Turnbull got it. Nelson might have been a nice bloke and all, but he doesn't have the mongrel in him to be opposition leader.

Agreed on that Turnbill has the "take no prisoners attitude".

He'll do well I think - as long as the Lib party leave him alone to do the job. (read Costello to stay out of the way on the back bench)

[VrWagz1]

lol @ nelson, he was always a gonner

[minux]

I wonder if the ALP are gonna have the cheek to have a go at Turnbull about being out of touch with the working class?

Given that Rudd's wife is extremely wealthy, it seems that his emotive bleats like working families is champagne socialism at its best.

I'm glad Turnbull got it. Nelson might have been a nice bloke and all, but he doesn't have the mongrel in him to be opposition leader.

Agreed, Nelson was an ok guy, but I was uncomfortable with the fact that A. He is ex-Labor and B he was too nice.

Would love to see Costello take up role of treasurer on that side again if they were to win back power. I do have to say Kudos to Dr Nelson though, he let it go to a vote rather than let in fighting take over like we seen with Labor over 12 years.

[50LTRv8]

I was saying to my work mates only yesterday that Nelson must know he is gone, and has been a gonner since the day he became leader. He was only ever a stopgap until a real leader took over.

The thing is though that Nelson took over when no one else wanted to and he took a lot of hits for his party. I hope that the Liberals remember what he put up with after the election.

As for Turnbull, he will be o.k. as long as he learns to communicate in a softer way. Alot of the time his mouth just sounds like a hammer.

I don't think Costello will want to be treasurer again. I don't think he would like to be behind Turnbull and Bishop but he was an excellent treasurer when the Libs were in power.

[Morton]

Listening to a lot of what Nelson had to say on the radio earlier this year, I found it a lot easier to like him when I didn't have to look at his hair... but when he brought out that policy, regarding the 5c petrol excise cut... that pretty much lost him any credibility he had in my eyes. Glad he's gone, and perhaps the Liberals can start building a good policy base for the next election

[Full Spectrum]

I think he was doomed when he decided to fight in the trenches over things that weren't worth fighting that hard for, You had to ask the question, If he was fighting for something like life, How could he lift anymore to fight that?.
He spent way to much time fighting all out on small things, And not fighting real issues, Spend little energy straight to the point on what you don't support, And straight to the point on what you support, And when it comes to things you really need to fight in the trenches for, Give it all you got.
To much on small things, And to much time on in fighting.

TurdBull has got 6 months to see what he can do with this party, Try and lead them into some type of oppostion which can pull the gap back.
He at least will not worry about knives in the back as Nielson did, But the sharks will always be around, But that is natural in opposition.

[50LTRv8]

Who are the other sharks though? There is no one else (besides Costello) who is even ready to lead the party. All the Howard troops have left the building, Downer (who failed as leader), Costello (won't do it), Nelson (just sacked), there is only Abbott left and I am fairly sure he won't be voted in lol.

Bishop is an option but I don't think she is strong enough to lead the libs

[Full Spectrum]

Shrek (Hocking) has ambitions. And he has an evil eye watching over.

I'm a bit disappointed TurdBall wont be backing a republic, He could at least listen to some ideas, It's clear the majority are after one.
We can't decide on what model, That is the biggest stumbling block.

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Shrek (Hocking) has ambitions. And he has an evil eye watching over.

I'm a bit disappointed TurdBall wont be backing a republic, He could at least listen to some ideas, It's clear the majority are after one.
We can't decide on what model, That is the biggest stumbling block.

I think the republic is the last thing on anyones mind at the moment. Perhaps the US falling apart would be a bit more of a concern seeing as how many Australian businesses and citizens it will effect here.

[Reaper]

I wonder if the ALP are gonna have the cheek to have a go at Turnbull about being out of touch with the working class?

Given that Rudd's wife is extremely wealthy, it seems that his emotive bleats like working families is champagne socialism at its best.

I'm glad Turnbull got it. Nelson might have been a nice bloke and all, but he doesn't have the mongrel in him to be opposition leader.

Heheh well now we have a choice.... A self made millionaire or a wife made millionaire...

Reaper

[Reaper]

TurdBull has got 6 months to see what he can do with this party, Try and lead them into some type of oppostion which can pull the gap back.
He at least will not worry about knives in the back as Nielson did, But the sharks will always be around, But that is natural in opposition.

Shrek (Hocking) has ambitions. And he has an evil eye watching over.

I'm a bit disappointed TurdBall wont be backing a republic, He could at least listen to some ideas, It's clear the majority are after one.
We can't decide on what model, That is the biggest stumbling block.

And it's great to see you are prepared to offer the guy the common decency and respect of refering to him by his name.... Nope true to form you immediatly stoop to childish name calling.

On the broader issue I am concerned with his public perception (rightly or wrongly) of being a silver tail. I think it will be very difficult to overcome. That said, I think the guy is extremely capable and the right person to take things up to the government especially these days with the US banks seeming to be in a sprint race to bankruptcy court.

Reaper

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And it's great to see you are prepared to offer the guy the common decency and respect of refering to him by his name.... Nope true to form you immediatly stoop to childish name calling.

Especially after having a go at others for doing the exact same thing.

[Full Spectrum]

I think the republic is the last thing on anyones mind at the moment. Perhaps the US falling apart would be a bit more of a concern seeing as how many Australian businesses and citizens it will effect here.

Oh no, Comeon now, Could that mean there is huge pressure on us from abroad?.
And it's only supposed to be all on Rudds shoulders. Guess there is a world crisis after all.

[Full Spectrum]

And it's great to see you are prepared to offer the guy the common decency and respect of refering to him by his name.... Nope true to form you immediatly stoop to childish name calling.

Sorry if your slow on the uptake, But it's common practice on here.

Especially after having a go at others for doing the exact same thing.

Did i?.

Heheh well now we have a choice.... A self made millionaire or a wife made millionaire...

Reaper

Only one is running for office, The other is a house wife self made millionaire.

[MasterOfReality]

I wonder if the ALP are gonna have the cheek to have a go at Turnbull about being out of touch with the working class?

Given that Rudd's wife is extremely wealthy, it seems that his emotive bleats like working families is champagne socialism at its best.

I'm glad Turnbull got it. Nelson might have been a nice bloke and all, but he doesn't have the mongrel in him to be opposition leader.

So it didn't take long for the champagne socialists to start:

Labor 'has millionaire frontbenchers too' | The Australian

Hypocrisy rules supreme in the ALP.

[Reaper]

Sorry if your slow on the uptake, But it's common practice on here.

Can't say I have partaken in such references. Don't notice that many either but in this case it stands out like the proverbial. Of course if somebody else starts with the playground insults then that is a green light for you to follow?

Oh no, Comeon now, Could that mean there is huge pressure on us from abroad?.
And it's only supposed to be all on Rudds shoulders. Guess there is a world crisis after all.

Yeah there is a lot of pressure from abroad. As per the 9 month thread from a few weeks ago, Rudds contractionary policies when there are already massive contractionary external pressures is *EXACTLY* the wrong course of action. If you are trying to stop a cart from rolling forward, do you push it from the front or the back? The difference between the two (when contrasted with the Liberal party and the Asian Crisis) is knowing which buttons to push when these things happen.

Reaper

[Full Spectrum]

Can't say I have partaken in such references. Don't notice that many either but in this case it stands out like the proverbial. Of course if somebody else starts with the playground insults then that is a green light for you to follow?

No no no, Trust me, I never accused you of taking part in it.
It seems its just something that pleases everyone, And i did it once, Well twice in one post, And it got a reaction faster then i expected, In fact i didn't think it would create a reaction since it's common to rename our pollys.

No minux hasn't pinched my seat on the playground today.
I know i should grow up, But I'm a big kid life is short.

Yeah there is a lot of pressure from abroad. As per the 9 month thread from a few weeks ago, Rudds contractionary policies when there are already massive contractionary external pressures is *EXACTLY* the wrong course of action. If you are trying to stop a cart from rolling forward, do you push it from the front or the back? The difference between the two (when contrasted with the Liberal party and the Asian Crisis) is knowing which buttons to push when these things happen.

Reaper

It seems to be getting worse, And now we are waiting for the big word from overseas, U.S hits recession.

This might make the Asian crisis look like a sore toe. I feel we are in a better position right now then the Brits are.
We are still creating jobs, And it seems people are starting to spend again, But all will stop if the U.S hits the panic button..

Right now i feel for people who are about to retire, There saying they might need to rethink that by 1-2 years.

[minux]

No minux hasn't pinched my seat on the playground today.
I know i should grow up, But I'm a big kid life is short.

Why grow up, where is the fun in that? Grow old too fast. As for the seat, nope I did pinch it.

It seems to be getting worse, And now we are waiting for the big word from overseas, U.S hits recession.

This might make the Asian crisis look like a sore toe. I feel we are in a better position right now then the Brits are.
We are still creating jobs, And it seems people are starting to spend again, But all will stop if the U.S hits the panic button..

Right now i feel for people who are about to retire, There saying they might need to rethink that by 1-2 years.

People are already panicking, if AIG cannot get the backing of 95+ billion(AU), they will go into bankruptcy. This in itself will be the start of a massive downward spiral. I think the US hit the panic button after Lehmans, but that was only a small drop of sand compared to AIG. If this goes down, it effects some 3.5 million Australians for super/insurance alone. Now that is a scary thought.

[Reaper]

It seems to be getting worse, And now we are waiting for the big word from overseas, U.S hits recession.

This might make the Asian crisis look like a sore toe. I feel we are in a better position right now then the Brits are.
We are still creating jobs, And it seems people are starting to spend again, But all will stop if the U.S hits the panic button..

Right now i feel for people who are about to retire, There saying they might need to rethink that by 1-2 years.

You should read a little history of Japan and co in the late 90's. It took them a long time to recover and the repercussions were felt over America and Europe for years. Strong economic management that was shown by our governemnt of the day (primarily Costello) allowed Aus to move thru virtually unscathed (sp?).

We are yet to know the full impact of this new crisis but we do know that it will be significant. This being the case - WHY IS OUR GOVERNMENT PERSISTING WITH CONTRACTIONARY ECONOMIC POLICY? Nobody has answered this quesion. You just told me what we already know. I am asking about our Governments reaction and management of the situation.

Reaper

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This being the case - WHY IS OUR GOVERNMENT PERSISTING WITH CONTRACTIONARY ECONOMIC POLICY? Nobody has answered this quesion. You just told me what we already know. I am asking about our Governments reaction and management of the situation.

Reaper

If anyone were to answer it, it would be a lie. It seems nothing is being done at all fromt he outside. I am yet to hear any of the Labor leaders mention a word about it.

[Reaper]

..... I guess on the plus side - the evil inflation dragon will be defeated as most of the public will be broke and can't afford to buy anything - whatever the price.

Reaper