Paid Maternity Leave, thoughts?

[minux]

So it looks like the taxpayers of this country will once again be forced to hand over money for a scheme that is imho a joke. Why should everyone have to pay for people to have children? Do we not have enough handouts in this country? Perhaps if there were less handouts people would plan their futures a little better. I am unsure as to why people like myself and my partner who are not interested in children should have to pay extra taxes to cover those who do want them, also not sure why those who have already had their children should have to pay either.
Surely a better scheme would be to allow married couples to salary sacrifice payments into a scheme which they fund themselves. I would also hope that only married couples are entitled to this benefit, I certainly do not want to be paying for some carpet licking feminist or some limp wristed donut puncher to be having time off to have spray and go children.

Thanks Rudd for yet ANOTHER tax...absolute joke.

[stocky]

plnety of people calling into the radio this morning saying its a persons right to have a child whether they can afford it or not. **** off. dont have one until you can pay for it yourself

[minux]

plnety of people calling into the radio this morning saying its a persons right to have a child whether they can afford it or not. **** off. dont have one until you can pay for it yourself

Exactly, this country already has far too money "Centrelink" babies, unless it is self funded maternity leave employers will simply just stop hiring women.

[Skitz]

So it looks like the taxpayers of this country will once again be forced to hand over money for a scheme that is imho a joke. Why should everyone have to pay for people to have children? Do we not have enough handouts in this country? Perhaps if there were less handouts people would plan their futures a little better. I am unsure as to why people like myself and my partner who are not interested in children should have to pay extra taxes to cover those who do want them, also not sure why those who have already had their children should have to pay either.
Surely a better scheme would be to allow married couples to salary sacrifice payments into a scheme which they fund themselves. I would also hope that only married couples are entitled to this benefit, I certainly do not want to be paying for some carpet licking feminist or some limp wristed donut puncher to be having time off to have spray and go children.

Thanks Rudd for yet ANOTHER tax...absolute joke.

Yes well I think you'll find there will be a certain criteria for this application, and yes I am in favour of Paid Maternity Leave.

[stocky]

Yes well I think you'll find there will be a certain criteria for this application, and yes I am in favour of Paid Maternity Leave.

criteria....im guessing that means high income earners dont get it?

[minux]

Yes well I think you'll find there will be a certain criteria for this application, and yes I am in favour of Paid Maternity Leave.

Sweet, well then YOU pay for it, should not be up to my parents, your parents, myself etc to fund you wanting to have little children.

[minux]

criteria....im guessing that means high income earners dont get it?

Knowing the typical Labor government it will only be available to those who cannot afford to have children anyway.

[Astranomical]

I think its a joke if you ask me...now we're just going to see more people popping out kids simply to get the money, its already bad enough as it is now. There's already enough unwanted kids, we don't need more.

[CSP]

Pffft! Can't afford to take the time off? Don't have a baby!

[Skitz]

Sweet, well then YOU pay for it, should not be up to my parents, your parents, myself etc to fund you wanting to have little children.

I earn enough for my wife and children to stay at home so you, your parents and friends are'nt paying jack on my behalf.

[minux]

Pffft! Can't afford to take the time off? Don't have a baby!

Thats the problem, people just expect everything to be given to them on a platter to make their life easier. Ahh braincheck, life is not easy, setting yourself up takes hard work, when will ****ing Australians understand this. I am so sick of hearing about "oh we are so hard done by", well fix it you dumbarse idiots.

[minux]

I earn enough for my wife and children to stay at home so you, your parents and friends are'nt paying jack on my behalf.

Under these changes however, we would be paying for it. No one should be entitled to be paid to have children unless it is self funded.

Sick of hearing how hard it is to pay a mortgage and have children blah blah blah, choose one or the other then, people need to realise you cant have everything you want in life.

[Skitz]

Under these changes however, we would be paying for it. No one should be entitled to be paid to have children unless it is self funded.

Sick of hearing how hard it is to pay a mortgage and have children blah blah blah, choose one or the other then, people need to realise you cant have everything you want in life.

I am not up to speed on the exact legislation, I do agree though in this day and age some people need a helping hand and without it growth would be negative.

[stocky]

why would growth be negative? the people that can afford the kids can have more if needed, to make up for those that low income people cant afford to have. why do we need population growth anyway? our infrastructure sucks for it

[minux]

I am not up to speed on the exact legislation, I do agree though in this day and age some people need a helping hand and without it growth would be negative.

Better to have a slightly negative growth in population than to have more and more people reciving hand outs.

This $450 million would be better off spent on Public Transport and our roads things that will benefit this country in the future.

[Skitz]

why would growth be negative? the people that can afford the kids can have more if needed, to make up for those that low income people cant afford to have. why do we need population growth anyway? our infrastructure sucks for it

Have you taken into account any variables?

[Skitz]

Better to have a slightly negative growth in population than to have more and more people reciving hand outs.

This $450 million would be better off spent on Public Transport and our roads things that will benefit this country in the future.

Roads, transport..with negative growth why waste money on that.So the roads are nice and smooth for the senator and the farts are on the train out of your way?

[stocky]

Have you taken into account any variables?

...such as?

[stocky]

Roads, transport..with negative growth why waste money on that.So the roads are nice and smooth for the senator and the farts are on the train out of your way?

i use the train. it needs the money more than people putting out kids. you sound like you have no idea what youre on about

[Julie]

If you can't afford to take at least a couple of months off work to have a baby then you have no business making babies, what a waste to taxpayers money!

[Rufus®]

My missus already gets 16 weeks paid maternity leave, thanks to a local council.

I think people need to look at it from a different perspective, it may not be about affordability, but more as an incentive for those working women to have children, just as CCB is so they can return to the workforce.

It will create temporary jobs, thus lowering unemployment. Aswell as allowing our population to grow, thus ensuring a continuing workforce in the future.

Me personally, I'd prefer to see working families have kids, rather than those who sit on their asses and bludge on the dole.

[Skitz]

...such as?

Not everyone that can have kids can just keep pumping them out.You really hav'nt put much thought into it have you?

[minux]

My missus already gets 16 weeks paid maternity leave, thanks to a local council.

I think people need to look at it from a different perspective, it may not be about affordability, but more as an incentive for those working women to have children, just as CCB is so they can return to the workforce.

It will create temporary jobs, thus lowering unemployment. Aswell as allowing our population to grow, thus ensuring a continuing workforce in the future.

Me personally, I'd prefer to see working families have kids, rather than those who sit on their asses and bludge on the dole.

So why can't a salary sacrifice system be put in place where it is self funded? Perhaps if people learn to save for these events it will pass onto their children the importance of saving and using their own money rather than relying on handouts.

[stocky]

Not everyone that can have kids can just keep pumping them out.You really hav'nt put much thought into it have you?

that makes no sense? me not putting thought into it? its the people having kids when they cant afford them not putting thought into anything

[ProphetVX]

So it looks like the taxpayers of this country will once again be forced to hand over money for a scheme that is imho a joke. Why should everyone have to pay for people to have children? Do we not have enough handouts in this country? Perhaps if there were less handouts people would plan their futures a little better. I am unsure as to why people like myself and my partner who are not interested in children should have to pay extra taxes to cover those who do want them, also not sure why those who have already had their children should have to pay either.
Surely a better scheme would be to allow married couples to salary sacrifice payments into a scheme which they fund themselves. I would also hope that only married couples are entitled to this benefit, I certainly do not want to be paying for some carpet licking feminist or some limp wristed donut puncher to be having time off to have spray and go children.

Thanks Rudd for yet ANOTHER tax...absolute joke.

I agree in theory. But unfortunately, we are part of an ageing population. More and more people are unwilling to have children, and that is not a good thing for the future prosperity of the country. Without more children being born, there is more of a burden with less income due to elderly care. In australia it is starting to become quite lopsided in that regard.

Things like the baby bonus, and maternity leave entitlements should be revoked after your 2nd child IMO. Any more and it's just encouraging billy bob and shazza from out in the sticks to have 10 children and live off welfare.

As you said, things like a salary sacrifice should certainly be looked into. I'd even be happy with a thing similar to a hecs debt. Maternity leave is paid for, but you have to pay it back with CPI.