Bloody concreter

[adam69]

Last April i got a slab done for an outdoor entertaining area and its crap.The color never evened out,finish was poor and it now has a 2m crack in it and ive now noticed another coming up.What legal rights do i have?
Is 100mm with REO.This is the second time we have used him and we had no issues with the first job for my shed/workshop.We have told him but he wont come around.

[Cobez]

Tell him if he doesn't come around, you will tie half the slab to one of his feet, and the other half to his other foot, and crane lift him to a pier and drop him into his watery grave.

[Scooter79]

Dept of Fair trading? Is there a body or organisation for registered builders or some sort of organisation to protect people from shoddy building? There's plenty of options for you to take. If he was a smart person and you've used him before he knows he's going to lose business by not helping to sort it out.

[badaz]

Most concrete cracks to some degree, if you post up a pic of the slab I'll be able to help you better.

[adam69]

I will need to take a pic tomorrow.The slab is approx 12mx6m.Should he have put that strip of foam where it meets the house because he did that with the first job beside the garage?

[adam69]

Tell him if he doesn't come around, you will tie half the slab to one of his feet, and the other half to his other foot, and crane lift him to a pier and drop him into his watery grave.

My idea was to rip it up with the help of my bobcat mate and offload it in his driveway.

[adam69]

Dept of Fair trading? Is there a body or organisation for registered builders or some sort of organisation to protect people from shoddy building? There's plenty of options for you to take. If he was a smart person and you've used him before he knows he's going to lose business by not helping to sort it out.

Ill look into that,thankyou.

[Reaper]

Last April i got a slab done for an outdoor entertaining area and its crap.The color never evened out,finish was poor and it now has a 2m crack in it and ive now noticed another coming up.What legal rights do i have?
Is 100mm with REO.This is the second time we have used him and we had no issues with the first job for my shed/workshop.We have told him but he wont come around.

Depends on what the job was. If you had to get a permit as an "owner builder" then you have 2/10 of bugger all chance as you are responsible for ensuring that everything is done correctly. Just as an aside, it's amazing how many builders get concreters to set out their jobs . Anybody ever wondered why concreters are concreters?

Reaper

[adam69]

Depends on what the job was. If you had to get a permit as an "owner builder" then you have 2/10 of bugger all chance as you are responsible for ensuring that everything is done correctly. Just as an aside, it's amazing how many builders get concreters to set out their jobs . Anybody ever wondered why concreters are concreters?

Reaper

Sorry Reaper but i read that 3 times and i still dont understand what you mean

[Jo3_Blo]

Nor do I lol.

Keep hounding the bloke. And then if that dosn't work, give him a good kick up the arse. lol.

[Reaper]

Sorry Reaper but i read that 3 times and i still dont understand what you mean

Meaning pretty much the buck starts and stops with the builder who in this case is probably you. (not good I know but thats how it works). Sorry - should have put it a bit better.

Reaper

[adam69]

He has been called many times and says he will come and look at it but doesnt come around,the level is shot and water pools every where.The color was added when it was wet and he told us it would even out when it dried but it didnt.We had him inlay flat bluestone pieces and they are lower than the slab and they pool water too.he put a clear sealer on the slab also and that is coming off every where too.

[adam69]

Meaning pretty much the buck starts and stops with the builder who in this case is probably you. (not good I know but thats how it works). Sorry - should have put it a bit better.

Reaper

But at the end of the day we payed him to do a job and its substandard.Its not like we had it dome while we were building(is that what you mean)?I dont know if you remember my house but it is the continuation of the garage from the rear door.We had paving there but we wanted something better,and bigger.

[Reaper]

But at the end of the day we payed him to do a job and its substandard.Its not like we had it dome while we were building(is that what you mean)?I dont know if you remember my house but it is the continuation of the garage from the rear door.We had paving there but we wanted something better,and bigger.

I know I've been there but sorry I can't remember the details (I site measure around 25 - 30 homes per week for extensions etc etc) and didn't pay much attention to the concrete. You may have some recourse thru the courts but I don't like your chances. The builder usually ends up carrying the can once money is paid out. It may also depend on the exact scope of work that the guy did.

Reaper

[adam69]

Ive got some good contacts with the court system as my sister is 2ic at Broady ct although she is at Melbourne atm.I also do work for the head magistrate at Broady too.Its earlydays and im just getting some ideas on what to do and what my rights are.

[Troy711]

Hows the weather been lately? Wet, dry, wet, dry, hot, wet, dry, hot? Could have alot to do with it.

[azkwazere]

Hows the weather been lately? Wet, dry, wet, dry, hot, wet, dry, hot? Could have alot to do with it.

doesnt matter... even if the slab had water pockets in it thats the creters fault for laying it wet and not venting it.

All i can suggest is take LOTS and LOTS of photos!

aZk.

[adam69]

Hows the weather been lately? Wet, dry, wet, dry, hot, wet, dry, hot? Could have alot to do with it.

Not very wet winter and no real heat lately.Its only been there for 5 and a half monthe and we have been chasing him for the last 2 months.It is up against two walls

[azkwazere]

great name for the photo .... hahahahahaha

aZk.

[adam69]

From waht i hear he should have sawn some control lines so the slab so if it moved it had somewhere to go.All he has done is some cosmetic lines as you would see in the foot paths.

[azkwazere]

From waht i hear he should have sawn some control lines so the slab so if it moved it had somewhere to go.All he has done is some cosmetic lines as you would see in the foot paths.

the lines should hit dirt... should be literally differnt slabs of concrete...afaik.

aZk.

[FusionX]

For the finish, it definetly sounds like his fault.

But the crack will come down to who did the initial ground work. If he just layed the slab and someone else or yourself did the compaction, then the crack won't be his problem. Everytime we do a job, we always do compaction tests and document it before anything is layed.

[jas98]

as for the cracks....what can you do? we had our house slab and shed slab and verandah slab rear veranda slab and granny flat slab all layed at different times over about 2 years.....now they all have cracks in them....not little one some are biggish but yeh all concrete will crack, it also depends on teh foundation aswell.....clay....sand.....etc....where we are we have "H: so that meant allot of concrete had to go in but it still cracked.il

[Full Spectrum]

Did you say he only used a small amount of reo?.

This sounds like the guys that did a spot for us, In a few weeks it started to crack and fall apart.. He left the area.

[adam69]

We orgainsed the excavaction,he did every thing from there,gravel,reo,every thing.
Our friend that prepared every thing for him does this for a living as his sons do slabs for housing.