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    A P-PLATER clocked at 149km/h was struck and killed by another motorist soon after police impounded his car.
    The man, believed to be aged in his late teens to early 20s, died in hospital after he was run over near Little River between 7pm and 10.30pm on Thursday.
    Earlier in the evening, police pulled the young man over after he was detected travelling at high speed along the Princes Freeway in a green Kia Rio.
    Victoria Police spokeswoman Sgt Belinda Bales said officers informed the man that the Rio would be impounded and called a tow truck to remove it from the side of the road.
    "Victoria Police intercepted a vehicle travelling at high speed on the Princes Freeway yesterday at 7pm. As a result, Victoria Police informed the man that it would be impounded under the hoon legislation," Sgt Bales said.
    "The police offered assistance for the man to get home but this was declined. Police returned to their vehicle to arrange a tow truck and believed the man returned to his vehicle and was sitting inside it."
    However, the man had disappeared when the officer returned to speak to him.
    His departure from the scene prompted a brief search, which was later called off when he was found further down the road.
    "A short time later, when the tow truck arrived, Victoria Police realised that the man was not in the vehicle. As a result, the officer conducted a search of the area but the man could not be located," Sgt Bales said.
    "Approximately three-and-a-half hours later and 10km from this interception, the man was involved in a collision with another vehicle. At this time it is not believed there are any suspicious circumstances. The man has unfortunately died in hospital."
    The car was towed back to Norlane and impounded. It was handed over to the man's parents yesterday afternoon.
    Police have referred the matter to the coroner.
    Sgt Bales said it was inappropriate for police to provide any further details about the incident.
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    I can already see the outcries now, police shouldn't be doing this, police shouldn't be doing that. While it is sad that this guy died, had he not been breaking the law to begin with he would still be alive today.

    I certainly am looking forward to seeing the side stories emerge this week.
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    Cant help bad luck - he got caught speeding, lost his car and did not take care walking on the road.

    I feel for the parents at this time. Just so sad.
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    So im guessing that he was walking when he was struck? What about the car that hit him? wasnt a drink driving learner by any chance?
    Your right though there will be heaps of stories/posts saying the police shouldnt have let him walking or what not but i'm sure he didn't intend to get hit by a car and neither the police or probably even the other driver could forsee this happening.
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    Was he on 'the freeway' (meaning shoulder/lane et al) when hit?
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    No outcry here,was just bad luck.
    Sorry Craig but with all due respect do you add comments just to create a flare up with every body?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keepleft View Post
    Was he on 'the freeway' (meaning shoulder/lane et al) when hit?

    Princes Freeway if the artical is correct. Which means it would be an offence for a pedestrian to be walking along it. Which means the police should have made sure he got off it by means other than walking. But the report indicates that he was sitting in his car and just disappeared so they've covered their tracks there by the looks of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by VYII BERLINA View Post
    149kmh in a Kia Rio? He had a death wish anyway....
    Not a very hard thing to do in any modern car. Even my old 1998 Hyundai Excel could exceed that speed, and quite easily.

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    looks like to me that the police are covering up the real story as if the police will let a guy out of there hands dissapear. they made him walk and now are covering there backs like he vanished.

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    Only going on the report listed ^. But if it were on a freeway, where pedestrians cyclists are banned, then how according to the police was he going to get off the freeway? Was his intention to catch a ride with the tow truck driver? If so, was he to be left alone with his vehicle to wait for the tow truck.......he could have driven off in the vehicle(even if the police took the keys, he could have had a spare) and done some more damage to, doesnt sound like correct procedure was followed, and/or that current procedure is lacking and in need of reform.
    Keeping an open mind until there is more information, which hopefully will all be made available to the coroner who will make judgement based on the facts, not whether he thought it appropriate that this person died simply because they were hooning.
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    Does sound a bit strange the whole thing.

    I still believe in the system they have made on hoon drivers, More this type of driving excessive speeds dangerous driving is what it should be more on, Not some oldies off the lights chirping in the rain.

    But i know he would not have been there if he didn't speed, But i can't see death being the ultimate punishment, He could have learned from this and reformed, But he wont be given the chance to. And in that way it's a shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minux View Post
    Earlier in the evening, police pulled the young man over after he was detected travelling at high speed along the Princes Freeway in a green Kia Rio.
    Lmao a kia rio? this is a joke right? lol.

    And besides, what dumb **** walks on the freeway? you would have to be an ignorant bastard to not take a ride from the police, just because they impounded his car because he stuffed up doesn't mean there the bad guys.....

    And besides even if you did refuse a ride from them, why wouldn't you call your mates/family to pick you up?

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    Under the circumstances given, the person was not under arrest at any stage once his identity had been confirmed. He was free to do what he wanted to do. Therefore if he wanted to walk off he was free to do so.

    If he was so concerned about wanting to organise transport either to his destination or closer then he would have stuck around.

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    as if the cops would have gone looking for him though the truth has been bent a little bit i think. they would have gone to the car seen hes gone and laughed to themselves and hop back into there car

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicCop View Post
    Under the circumstances given, the person was not under arrest at any stage once his identity had been confirmed. He was free to do what he wanted to do. Therefore if he wanted to walk off he was free to do so.

    If he was so concerned about wanting to organise transport either to his destination or closer then he would have stuck around.
    Without full evidence, I'm not all comfortable, legally, in 'duty of care/negligence' terms with this event; *as it appears*.

    Well see.

    This is not a shot at legislation which may or may not require amendment.

    Australia is under International obligation to keep pedestrians, horse drawn vehicles and cycles off 'motorway class roads'.
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    All this incident doesis highlight how stupid the hoon laws are. He wasn't hooning, he was speeding. Scrap the speeding law if speeding is now hooning, and the when old grandma gets clocked at 61, impound her 1 owner torana aswell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravotwozero View Post
    Princes Freeway if the artical is correct. Which means it would be an offence for a pedestrian to be walking along it. Which means the police should have made sure he got off it by means other than walking. But the report indicates that he was sitting in his car and just disappeared so they've covered their tracks there by the looks of it.


    Not a very hard thing to do in any modern car. Even my old 1998 Hyundai Excel could exceed that speed, and quite easily.
    Your'e right, its easy to do, but would you choose a Rio to do it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey_19 View Post
    as if the cops would have gone looking for him though the truth has been bent a little bit i think. they would have gone to the car seen hes gone and laughed to themselves and hop back into there car
    Why should the police go looking for someone who walked off in this instance? He was not under arrest, he was free to go. There is no duty of care to ensure a person who has broken a law gets home safely once the offence has been dealt with. Try to think before you post next time.


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    I'd say its just a case of bad luck. As minux said, if he wasn't breaking the law he wouldn't have been put in the situation in the first place.

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    I can't believe how the first thing some of you guys do when you hear about a story like this is try to blame the police. Is nobody responsible for their own actions anymore? Maybe the police did fudge the story but it would only be a result of ridiculous legislation that obliges them to babysit grown men. Bad luck, it happens. As earlier stated its the parents that suffer and possibly the other driver, assuming he/she wasn't drunk, speeding etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by vx2chopper View Post
    I can't believe how the first thing some of you guys do when you hear about a story like this is try to blame the police. Is nobody responsible for their own actions anymore? Maybe the police did fudge the story but it would only be a result of ridiculous legislation that obliges them to babysit grown men. Bad luck, it happens. As earlier stated its the parents that suffer and possibly the other driver, assuming he/she wasn't drunk, speeding etc
    Doesn't matter who's at fault. The guy is dead and finding who was at fault isn't going to change that.

    What I find amusing is that the police pick a guy up for committing an offence (speeding) yet let the same guy perpetrate another offence (being a pedestrian on a freeway) right under their noses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravotwozero View Post

    What I find amusing is that the police pick a guy up for committing an offence (speeding) yet let the same guy perpetrate another offence (being a pedestrian on a freeway) right under their noses.
    This perhaps will be at the centre of the coroner's enquiry.
    The police story at the moment is that he was getting a lift with the tow truck driver? Bet the tow truck operators get excited about that. Having to give a lift to the person whose car they are putting of the road. If I was a towie, I wouldnt be taking them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STEALTHY™ View Post
    All this incident doesis highlight how stupid the hoon laws are. He wasn't hooning, he was speeding. Scrap the speeding law if speeding is now hooning, and the when old grandma gets clocked at 61, impound her 1 owner torana aswell.
    Excessive speeding is dangerous, it was 149km/h and normally this hoon should have considered themselves lucky that they were apprehended before they actually did real damage to themselves and other.
    This event does highlights the problem we have in actually transporting the hoons back to a safe place after they have offended in remote areas. What if there were actually four other passengers in the car? How would the police deal with that situation?

    Confiscating the car, fine by me.

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