job advice for the future

[burnsy150]

as i'm just finished school forever i'm just after some opinions on what to do jobwise for the future...

i'm keen on doing a trade particularly something to do with the electrical industry but just after your own opinions on what to do for a job and where to apply

[Jo3_Blo]

WHat did you finish yr. 12?

Maybe go to TAFE and do a pre-app in a trade of interest. It will take approx half a year off your apprenticeship.

[TVR-190]

auto electrician

[SAV_117]

hey mate im doing prevoc in electrical dunno what state your in or if it changes from state to state im in SA if that helps well for me the course is a little hard cause i cant sit in the class room that long man its long hours for just one sub for me anyway there are ppl who can do it and ppl who cant i cant do it prefer to be doin somethin it can be hard if u dont pay attention i went to queensland was away for 2 days failed 2 subjects **** that ****ed me off lol but yeah if u buckle down man youll do it or just try and get an apprenticeship straight out its hard cause alot of em wanna see the course done but yeah just do what u can do man. if u wanna know anythin about the course or anythin let me know im nearly finished

[skipzor]

if you wanna get into the electrical field do a pre-app it takes almost a year off your 1st year schooling and it shows the employer your interested in the field and going to stay on.
if your looking at doing a trade be prepared to be getting paid $8 an hour.

[JBDrifter]

if you wanna get into the electrical field do a pre-app it takes almost a year off your 1st year schooling and it shows the employer your interested in the field and going to stay on.
if your looking at doing a trade be prepared to be getting paid $8 an hour.

Better than paying thousands to sit in a class room and doing assignments for the next 4 years doing some uni course... then most likely having some crap job on weekends and out of uni hours earning $15/hour just to get by. Screw that.

Electrical apprenticeship is good if you're interested in the work. Do the pre-app, it includes the first 6 months of apprenticeship modules. That means your employer doesn't have to pay for your first 6 months of schooling, you'll have a much better chance of finding a job.
Get a job with a bigger company that works for an EBA. Better than award wages, 1st year is about $11/hour now I think... but under the EBA you get additional allowances, you'd take home at least $400 a week in your first year. I did anyway as a first year and it was only about $9/hr back then I think. Not too bad for first year, especially if ur still living at home not paying bills or rent/board.

I'm 4th year now and taking home on average $845 a week... that will get much better in June when I'm qualified and I plan on getting additional tickets/qualifications to do specialised work for better money.

[minux]

Better than paying thousands to sit in a class room and doing assignments for the next 4 years doing some uni course... then most likely having some crap job on weekends and out of uni hours earning $15/hour just to get by. Screw that.

Only know 1 Uni qualified person on under 100k, and that's because she chose teaching and wasn't worried about money. That 4 years makes a massive difference later in life when you do not wish for manual labour.

For the O.P, think about what you enjoy now, what you may enjoy in 5 years and whether you will still enjoy it in 30 years. Once you choose a path to walk down, especially in the trades, you can't switch unless you enjoy living on peanuts.

[JBDrifter]

Only know 1 Uni qualified person on under 100k, and that's because she chose teaching and wasn't worried about money. That 4 years makes a massive difference later in life when you do not wish for manual labour.

For the O.P, think about what you enjoy now, what you may enjoy in 5 years and whether you will still enjoy it in 30 years. Once you choose a path to walk down, especially in the trades, you can't switch unless you enjoy living on peanuts.

Well then I guess it just comes down to what your preferences are then. For me I'd rather be earning money while learning my trade, rather than paying very big bucks now to get my qualification then pay it off when I start working. Plus I enjoy working with my hands and the electrical trade is not the hardest manual labour trade in the world The money is also decent, in a few years time when I am qualified and getting into specialised work I could be on 100k quite easily I imagine. Not to mention already having earned over 150k in the 4 years doing the apprenticeship, whereas a uni course would have cost tens of thousands for those 4 years... i'm already 200k ahead at least.

But yeah I do agree with what you say, I just think it comes down to what your preferences are and what you plan to do with the trade you've aquired.

[STEALTHY™]

If your not set on an electrical type job, get a forklift license.

Easy street to 70k a year.

[minux]

Erm, what forklift job pays 70k a year...you have to be on around $47 hour to bring home 70k a year. To clear 70k a year around $36 hr. Do not know too many forkies in that pay area, nor have i seen many positions advertised in that pay area.

[STEALTHY™]

Erm, what forklift job pays 70k a year...you have to be on around $47 hour to bring home 70k a year. To clear 70k a year around $36 hr. Do not know too many forkies in that pay area, nor have i seen many positions advertised in that pay area.

like i said, my work has really good conditions. if you work a standard 5 day week, maybe, but my work is open 6 days a week, so 1 day every week IS $52 an hour.

I earnt 55k last year, without working overtime.

[MasterOfReality]

Better than paying thousands to sit in a class room and doing assignments for the next 4 years doing some uni course... then most likely having some crap job on weekends and out of uni hours earning $15/hour just to get by. Screw that.

Electrical apprenticeship is good if you're interested in the work. Do the pre-app, it includes the first 6 months of apprenticeship modules. That means your employer doesn't have to pay for your first 6 months of schooling, you'll have a much better chance of finding a job.
Get a job with a bigger company that works for an EBA. Better than award wages, 1st year is about $11/hour now I think... but under the EBA you get additional allowances, you'd take home at least $400 a week in your first year. I did anyway as a first year and it was only about $9/hr back then I think. Not too bad for first year, especially if ur still living at home not paying bills or rent/board.

I'm 4th year now and taking home on average $845 a week... that will get much better in June when I'm qualified and I plan on getting additional tickets/qualifications to do specialised work for better money.

That all sounds well and good, but its not worth trying to persuade someone to be a tradie because of the perceived drawbacks of uni.

I laugh when I see the ads on TV that proclaim why go to uni when you can earn more as a tradie? Thats true for certain professions, but with everything else, you have to make informed decisions before you jump in at uni.

The stereotype of the uni student living in a hovel and eating noodles is crap. Play your cards right and live with your parents and attend the closest uni.

Work on weekends? No need if you choose wisely. I used my 3 month holiday at the end of every year to work in the mines. It was related to my course, and I had to relocated to western NSW, but as a uni student $900 gross a week is a fortune.

Uni qualifications do pay off. I spent 8 years at uni. I'm 29 in December, and after I pay income tax, HECS, a $600 per week mortgage, medicare levy and assorted deductions, I'm still left with $800 a week to play with, and its only going to go up from there.

A tradie will max out at a certain level and thats it, unless they start their own business.

[vlv8vic]

OP it worries me that you are thinking about this after you have finished school. Don't tell the people who select your applications this. Make them think you have a career goal and path and aren't just making it up based on what a job earns.

to hell with getting a job because it earns a certain amount of money... get a job you want and can make a career of.

I went to uni, i earn a **** wage as a teacher but i love the job. It means i pay HECs for at least another 5 years, meant i couldn't have the $500thou house on the hill and drive i a camry rather than a bently. But i like the work, it doesn't feel like work (half the time lol) and it is flexible (hence being home today - albeit to do crappy paperwork...)

[666vt]

i fail at life.. i work at the fruit markets with no qualifications getting 560 a week, on a salary, and i owe 12,000. still live with my parents and i have a girlfriend. pay for board, mobile phone, internet, laptop and car... if i get fired im up the shiitter =D

[minux]

i fail at life.. i work at the fruit markets with no qualifications getting 560 a week, on a salary, and i owe 12,000. still live with my parents and i have a girlfriend. pay for board, mobile phone, internet, laptop and car... if i get fired im up the shiitter =D

Hey at least you won't lose a house

[Bravotwozero]

Only know 1 Uni qualified person on under 100k, and that's because she chose teaching and wasn't worried about money. That 4 years makes a massive difference later in life when you do not wish for manual labour.

For the O.P, think about what you enjoy now, what you may enjoy in 5 years and whether you will still enjoy it in 30 years. Once you choose a path to walk down, especially in the trades, you can't switch unless you enjoy living on peanuts.

My wife has 4 degrees and earns less than 100k

My advice to the OP is to do something that you love. If you do what you love and have passion, the money will follow.

[minux]

My wife has 4 degrees and earns less than 100k

My advice to the OP is to do something that you love. If you do what you love and have passion, the money will follow.

Maybe she should of spent less time at Uni?

I disagree with doing something you love and the money will follow...for me, I work harder at doing things I do not love. Really though asking for advice on a forum is not really a great start to a career lol.

[EvoVIIIJDM]

Really though asking for advice on a forum is not really a great start to a career lol.

best advice in this thread yet

i think it would be fair to say the majority of the members on here are kids and lack direction or are uncertain where they want to head career wise.

Id say speak to a careers councellor, talk to people at tafe etc.

[Bravotwozero]

best advice in this thread yet

i think it would be fair to say the majority of the members on here are kids and lack direction or are uncertain where they want to head career wise.

Id say speak to a careers councellor, talk to people at tafe etc.

Don't have to be a kid to lack direction. There are so many options out there that sometimes it is difficult to know what to do.

[EvoVIIIJDM]

Don't have to be a kid to lack direction. There are so many options out there that sometimes it is difficult to know what to do.

thats not what i was implying.

[Rishy]

OP it worries me that you are thinking about this after you have finished school. Don't tell the people who select your applications this. Make them think you have a career goal and path and aren't just making it up based on what a job earns.

When I finished yr12 I wasnt sure what I was going to do. Eventually I took up a baking apprenticeship from which I qualified from a few months ago. Im no longer doing that job as I now know the path I want to go down. Currently just doing a casual labour job but Im joining the Navy, so meh I can handle doing a crappy job until I go off to start my training.

[minux]

When I finished yr12 I wasnt sure what I was going to do. Eventually I took up a baking apprenticeship from which I qualified from a few months ago. Im no longer doing that job as I now know the path I want to go down. Currently just doing a casual labour job but Im joining the Navy, so meh I can handle doing a crappy job until I go off to start my training.

Great move, ADF can provide a lot of career opportunities once you leave. I can't speak for the navy, but the best times of my life were served in the army.

[Rishy]

Great move, ADF can provide a lot of career opportunities once you leave. I can't speak for the navy, but the best times of my life were served in the army.

Cheers, everyone I know that is or was part of the ADF have said great things.

[Robbo_c]

if you wanna get into the electrical field do a pre-app it takes almost a year off your 1st year schooling and it shows the employer your interested in the field and going to stay on.
if your looking at doing a trade be prepared to be getting paid $8 an hour.

You get paid less than that im on $7 an hour on a first year apprenticship in landscaping.

[JBDrifter]

That all sounds well and good, but its not worth trying to persuade someone to be a tradie because of the perceived drawbacks of uni.

I laugh when I see the ads on TV that proclaim why go to uni when you can earn more as a tradie? Thats true for certain professions, but with everything else, you have to make informed decisions before you jump in at uni.

The stereotype of the uni student living in a hovel and eating noodles is crap. Play your cards right and live with your parents and attend the closest uni.

Work on weekends? No need if you choose wisely. I used my 3 month holiday at the end of every year to work in the mines. It was related to my course, and I had to relocated to western NSW, but as a uni student $900 gross a week is a fortune.

Uni qualifications do pay off. I spent 8 years at uni. I'm 29 in December, and after I pay income tax, HECS, a $600 per week mortgage, medicare levy and assorted deductions, I'm still left with $800 a week to play with, and its only going to go up from there.

A tradie will max out at a certain level and thats it, unless they start their own business.

I wasn't trying to persuade anyone to do anything... sorry if it came off that way. I did say it comes down to your own preferences, and for me it was to learn a trade. I was simply pointing out the pros. There are obviously cons also, as with anything.

I enjoy the work I do and it pays well so I'm happy with my choices. I hate studying, I am much more of a hands on kind of person and 8 years worth of uni would have seriously done my head in. I completed year 12 then did 1 year of accounting at uni and that was too much for me.... just not my thing. It is obviously your thing though it has paid off very well from the sounds of it, and I admire that. I hell of a lot! I'd love to be on that money. Hoping that one day I will.. I'm just taking a different path.