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    Holden cuts power to save fuel - drive.com.au

    "As part of the mild engine update, all entry-level Commodore V6s built from November will get 5kW less power, representing a 2.8 per cent reduction. The 175kW power output of the new Commodore for 2009 is identical to that of the 2004 Commodore - and 20kW less than the rival Falcon."

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    tsk tsk tsk come on holden what are you thinking?
    Although, now there will 20kw difference between the omega the calais/sv6 lol. But still, changing the tune is one thing, going back to the power output of the first alloytecs is admitting they ****ed this one up

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    I guess Holden figure that Omega drivers care more about economy than power. I see far more Berlina's, SS's and Calais getting around than Omegas anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hingo1983 View Post
    I guess Holden figure that Omega drivers care more about economy than power. I see far more Berlina's, SS's and Calais getting around than Omegas anyway.
    Thats exactly right. You don't buy an omega as a high performance car. Most that would buy one would look closer and fuel consumption figures rather than kilowatts. kilowatts isn't the be all and end all either. I don't think it's that big of a deal.
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    You wouldn't even feel the difference. Who gives a sh*t anyway, if someone is buying the car for the power, there is a good chance it won't stay standard for long.

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    By the sound of it, the power chasers weren't buying them anyway, so I fail to see your point.

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    You wouldn't buy an omega for power. Or sportyness.

    They really need to 6 speed auto to make a change. The 5 speed is fine real world. But the shorter ratio of the 4 speed still helps around town. The taller gearing in the 5 speed is tall. The 6 speed is needed to reduce ratio and shorter revs when cruising normal.
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    iv got the 6sp manual, 1st is mega short and 4 and 5th make almost no difference lol
    but i do 1700rpm at 100 in 6th

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    Hmm, wouldnt less power in these heavy cars UP the fuel consumption?
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    Quote Originally Posted by minux View Post
    Hmm, wouldnt less power in these heavy cars UP the fuel consumption?

    Not if it's tuned accordingly. Maybe what the engineers have done is primarily focused on reducing fuel consumption which resulted in your 5kW loss.

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    they could of just kept the same power and taken a few 100kgs of fat off the ve lol

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    I sort of like the idea. Most people here on the coast who drive Omegas are business men and im sure they don't care about power at all so it'll be good.

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    it is fair enough that they are doing something for the environment and the dump of power doesnt worry me, 5kw is nothing. But it has got me thinking about all the extra's in the commodores that use fuel.

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    Omega is nothing special, its a standard car with practicality and affordability. So they are going in the right direction. Making them lighter would be even better.

    If you want power + options, then go up to higher models like Calais, SS whatever.... Its what they are there for.....

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    i totally agree, but i wonder how quick an ls2 omega (if its available) thats had all the disposable weight (sound deadener, stupid plastic ****, boot carpet, esp sensors) all that crap. and then compare its consumption to that of a calais v which is fat

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    so what mods do the cop cars have here in s.a.? because they all drive omegas and I would have thought they require powerful cars.
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    i dont think that they would be modified due to implications with the EPA, ADR's and alike. But it has been seen in the past, around the vx-vz period that the 9c1 (police pack) has been available with the LS1 motor. It may be the the omega 9c1 is available with the 6lt.

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    well they certainly don't have v8's here and when they did they were ss's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Classifi3d Calais View Post
    iv got the 6sp manual, 1st is mega short and 4 and 5th make almost no difference lol
    but i do 1700rpm at 100 in 6th
    All everyone does is moan about the ridicules 1st gear in the manual being to tall?.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickHolden View Post
    All everyone does is moan about the ridicules 1st gear in the manual being to tall?.

    tall, 1st gear in an aisin box is short, i like it, give a great take off


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    Quote Originally Posted by andyman View Post
    tall, 1st gear in an aisin box is short, i like it, give a great take off
    Then i don't know why they always bring this up?. It visits articles as much as the A pillars. But how many read a bad thing about Fords 1 st gear?.
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    less power = fail......... simple......


    6lt in a omega would be pretty tuff but

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