Qantas

[BANKS]

Im getting really sick and tired of reading about things happening to Qantas. Qantas have got some media moles inside the company atm and they are trying to tarnish the airline, why?

To keep work in Australia, so they say… The thing is that most of Qantas’s maintenance work is carried out in Australia, especially in Avalon. Engineers are ****ed off that Qantas wants to take its maintenance overseas and I don’t blame em. The mentality of the engineers is ridiculous, I wouldn’t be surprised if Qantas sacks the lot of em and takes it offshore.

I have got a theory as well, as terrible as it sounds I think there might be some deliberate 'dodgy' repairs / tempering going on so that they have ammo against the aircraft being maintained overseas and cause maximum disruption to Qantas itself.

The things that the media are reporting are day to day incidences. The exceptions are the A330 in Perth which was a faulty OEM part! And the oxygen bottle 747, which I might add was installed in Avalon.

Other then those 2, the other incidents are things that normally go wrong.

Your thoughts and opinions?

[vnv8driver]

they shouldnt be allowed to fly planes after all the hassles that have gone on, its not an exaturation to say their flights are unsafe. they should be made to have third party technitions monitor them for a while to make sure there on track, and be fined a good amount for taking shortcuts which they most likely are doing.

The thing is there getting away with this with no punishment how can this be?

[BANKS]

Qantas cant get the blame, an aircraft engineer is responsible for his own work. If he signs something off as being serviceable or airworthy and it crashes / fails and someone dies, Under Australian law he is the one that gets prosecuted and it will be for murder. Qantas will get audited by CASA big time and get arse rapped but at the end of the day the responsibility lies with the engineer. That’s why if some one is doing the dodgy he is playing with fire, as well as people’s lives.

Qantas has never had a major crash resulting in massive deaths, i think back like 30 years ago they had a crash and someone died but since then, not one death. You show me another airline in the world that hasnt had an aircraft crash and everyone died. I've seen in first hand, qantas is so safety conscious it isnt funny.

[adamc11]

I think these problems with QANTAS have been happening for years. And i think their not the only airline. Ever since the mid air explosion, the media have been on QANTAS's back about all their problems that keep occurring. I never fly QANTAS, but i did once a few years ago. Believe it or not, we were delayed about an hour because of an air conditioner fault. Now i never fly them, this was really a once off, and it had problems. This was never reported in the media, because it's really nothing. BUT now the media is being picky. Matter of fact, QANTAS is the worlds safest airline, and i think it's because they fix every little fault rather than ignore it and think it will be okay. I'd still feel safe flying on them.

[danja]

Im getting really sick and tired of reading about things happening to Qantas. Qantas have got some media moles inside the company atm and they are trying to tarnish the airline, why?

Because it makes headlines! People read it! You talk about Garuda Airways crashing and no one says a thing, but if you slander The Spirit of Australia you sure get a reaction.

I have got a theory as well, as terrible as it sounds I think there might be some deliberate 'dodgy' repairs / tempering going on so that they have ammo against the aircraft being maintained overseas and cause maximum disruption to Qantas itself.

I very much doubt this. Not many people would risk the lives of up to 300 people so selfishly, and aircraft maintenance is traceable back to individual engineers, so if a particular bloke is sabotaging planes, he'll get caught out eventually (especially with all the extra attention their getting).

It's not that there are more accidents going on, it's just that you're hearing about them. Planes have minor issues all the time, they get delayed all the time. Their %#%$# complex pieces of machinery, many of which have been flying for 20 or 30 years. Things will break, it's expected. Normally though, when the toilet gets blocked and the plane is delayed 20 mins while the bloke with the plunger comes out, you DON'T hear about it. Now the media think this is front page news...

Qantas cant get the blame, an aircraft engineer is responsible for his own work. If he signs something off as being serviceable or airworthy and it crashes / fails and someone dies, Under Australian law he is the one that gets prosecuted and it will be for murder. Qantas will get audited by CASA big time and get arse rapped but at the end of the day the responsibility lies with the engineer. That’s why if some one is doing the dodgy he is playing with fire, as well as people’s lives.

Not quite, many many airlines have been penalised after accidents. It's not just the competancy of the engineer, but the work environment and training.

Often after crashes they find out that, yes the pilot made and error that that caused the plane to go down, but he was under a lot of pressure from the airline not to delay the flight, so he attempted a borderline landing etc.

Not to mention all the compensation claims from victims/families.

[ProphetVX]

FACT: QANTAS is still regarded as one of the worlds safest airlines.

There has been a spate of recent incidences, but unfortunately its the way many airlines are heading, why? Simply because they cannot afford to localise all their maitenance now, while fuel prices have dropped, in some recent years their costs rose by up to 40%, any business who is already running on minimal profit will struggle to maintain quality of service.

Over the next 5 years, many airlines will go bust, QANTAS may be one of them. Its a highly competitive market, ticket costs keep going down, but many simply can no longer compete.

[BullittSV6]

Yeah since the oxygen bottle the media's been sucking anything out of QANTAS.

I don't mind when a flight is delayed to fix something, I'd rather be three hours late than dead...

Boxing Day, 2006. I was flying from Adelaide to Darwin to spend a few weeks there. My flight was supposed to leave at 8 am I think.

Anyways, the plane came from Melbourne and along the way it suffered a cracked windscreen so a replacement plane had to come and the flight was delayed by an hour and a half.

The replacement plane comes and we board. Turns out there was a malfunction when they tried to start the engines.

There was no spare planes so we had to swap planes with a plane that was supposed to go to Sydney at the next gate. So we had to disembark the plane, wait at the gate for the new plane to be unloaded and reloaded with out luggage and board this. This was another hour and a half delay. Eventually we left Adelaide and I got to Darwin safely.

But no one heard about it. Yeah it was an inconveniance but safety was the priority and I respect that and I would still fly Qantas today.

[electro cruiser]

im a pilot, so i can tell you straight away the amount of **** that goes on everyday at melbourne airport and moorabbin. you dont hear about it all. unless its QANTAS. after that indian guy here at moorabbin died after crashing into the garage, moorabbin had the spotlight. a week and a bit after, a plane landed with one wheel up because it wouldnt come down. that was on the news. before the indian guy crashed, every few weeks, an aircraft would land off the runway and rip its undercarriage off, or while landing, the wing would strike the ground, or after landing a gust of wind would tip the aircraft upside down. have any of you guys heard that on the news? nope. but once the media gets something..they just feed off it. they make up stories so people go.. "aw yea thats true" they are scavangers.

dont believe what the media say. they only give you one side of the story, or they just make a small issue into something soo big. whatever they say, dont let the media judge QANTAS on anything. EVERY airline has incidents and i can name some for you. but because of the oxygen bottle, QANTAS is apparntly a BAD airline.

well i think the media should shut the F()CK UP koz im sik of those C()NTS... "A QANTAS airline was delayed 2 mins today because a reading light in row 21 A was blown. passenger CoCkhead macdenis was furious he couldnt read the book that he just bought. another passenger is suing because he had to read in the dark...." BLA BLA BLA..

sorry, but thats my b!tch for the day

[EvoVIIIJDM]

FACT: QANTAS is still regarded as one of the worlds safest airlines.

Thats the bottom line here, safest bird in the sky. Personally i cant see QANTAS going bust, the government would surely intervene with the flavour of the month, the "rescue package" and rightly so, i think the flying roo is an important part of Australia and its history.

[vnv8driver]

Qantas cant get the blame, an aircraft engineer is responsible for his own work. If he signs something off as being serviceable or airworthy and it crashes / fails and someone dies, Under Australian law he is the one that gets prosecuted and it will be for murder. Qantas will get audited by CASA big time and get arse rapped but at the end of the day the responsibility lies with the engineer. That’s why if some one is doing the dodgy he is playing with fire, as well as people’s lives.

Qantas has never had a major crash resulting in massive deaths, i think back like 30 years ago they had a crash and someone died but since then, not one death. You show me another airline in the world that hasnt had an aircraft crash and everyone died. I've seen in first hand, qantas is so safety conscious it isnt funny.

For a while now ive seen quantas in the news for either faults, daages or mishaps and whether its the tech's or quantas themselfs, quantas are the ones taking it all and its not good publicity, everytime i see a something in the news about a plane incident i automatically think 'quantas'

Do quantas hire the techs themselfs? if so they are resonsisble as they are the ones that can say yay or nay to repairs, and repairs being done properly.

I think all of their facilities involved should be assesses by a government selected tech team and make every adjustment they can to prevent these things happening as it is happening a little too often now and 60% of people who did a survery said they have lost faith in quantas, i have too.

[ProphetVX]

For a while now ive seen quantas in the news for either faults, daages or mishaps and whether its the tech's or quantas themselfs, quantas are the ones taking it all and its not good publicity, everytime i see a something in the news about a plane incident i automatically think 'quantas'

Do quantas hire the techs themselfs? if so they are resonsisble as they are the ones that can say yay or nay to repairs, and repairs being done properly.

I think all of their facilities involved should be assesses by a government selected tech team and make every adjustment they can to prevent these things happening as it is happening a little too often now and 60% of people who did a survery said they have lost faith in quantas, i have too.

If only you heard half the stories from American Airlines, British Airways, Air Canada etc etc. Fact of the matter remains, QANTAS still remains the worlds safest airline in terms of amount of miles travelled without a fatal accident (which is none in jets, I believe they had a few fatalities back in the day of bi-planes)

I'd hate to see what people here would think if they lived in the US where forced landings, or flights with incidents are a daily occurrence.

If one doesn't have faith in QANTAS' safety record, then finding an airline to fly on would be a very onerous task.

[electro cruiser]

For a while now ive seen quantas in the news for either faults, daages or mishaps and whether its the tech's or quantas themselfs, quantas are the ones taking it all and its not good publicity, everytime i see a something in the news about a plane incident i automatically think 'quantas'

Do quantas hire the techs themselfs? if so they are resonsisble as they are the ones that can say yay or nay to repairs, and repairs being done properly.

I think all of their facilities involved should be assesses by a government selected tech team and make every adjustment they can to prevent these things happening as it is happening a little too often now and 60% of people who did a survery said they have lost faith in quantas, i have too.

Mate if you could see the other airlines around the world. the stuff that happens to QANTAS is nothing to what happens to other airlines around the world. all it is the stupid news making a big deal for a story. dont get sucked in and believe. QANTAS is probably the most safest airline in the world. they dont have plane crashes..and that thing with the Airbus A330 dropping, thats Airbuses fault. not QANTAS. same if the ECU on your VE Commodore f()cks up when you first got the car koz that A330 was oretty new. Manufacturers fault. Not QANTAS

[vnv8driver]

The US is alot bigger than Australia so there would have to be alot more incidients, same goes for crime etc, and pretty much everything else you can think of.

I watch the news on a regular basis for years and its only recently that theres been problem after problem in a short amount of time which has allowed me to loose faith and 60 % of flyers have said the same apparently.

Id rather drive now than fly simply because i dont want to take the risk, at this point in time i see much less of a risk in driving than flying with quantas even though traffic accidents happen all the time, at least i know my car is maintained and im in control

[vnv8driver]

Mate if you could see the other airlines around the world. the stuff that happens to QANTAS is nothing to what happens to other airlines around the world. all it is the stupid news making a big deal for a story. dont get sucked in and believe. QANTAS is probably the most safest airline in the world. they dont have plane crashes..and that thing with the Airbus A330 dropping, thats Airbuses fault. not QANTAS. same if the ECU on your VE Commodore f()cks up when you first got the car koz that A330 was oretty new. Manufacturers fault. Not QANTAS

that is one concern that i took into account, so what exactly is airbus and is it a independent company running under quantas? as in they make their own repairs and such?

[vnv8driver]

what about things like gas tanks exploding and crap liek that doesnt that come down to how regularly items are checked over?

[STEALTHY™]

that is one concern that i took into account, so what exactly is airbus and is it a independent company running under quantas? as in they make their own repairs and such?

Airbus are the manufacturer.

[electro cruiser]

yea Holdens make commodors.
Airbus make A330's
Boeing make 747 etc

[vnv8driver]

Fake Qantas engineer offers false references to judge | National News | News.com.au

i just saw this in news.com which shows the lack of research done on engineers before there hired by quantas, its all a bit suss to me, quantas may be the safest company in the world but i still dont feel completely safe so being the safest flyer means nothing if a risk is likely to occur

[STEALTHY™]

Fake Qantas engineer offers false references to judge | National News | News.com.au

i just saw this in news.com which shows the lack of research done on engineers before there hired by quantas, its all a bit suss to me, quantas may be the safest company in the world but i still dont feel completely safe so being the safest flyer means nothing if a risk is likely to occur

Do you believe eveything the media reports?

And its Qantas, you call yourself an Australian.

[vnv8driver]

No but i belive the judges verdict which is final and has been investigated, and admitted by the offender.

And im Australian, but an Australian which looks out for his/her own safety not what is an aussie icon

[hingo1983]

I have flown with Qantas both domestic and international in the last couple of months and they have been great.

[electro cruiser]

you have every right to not fly with QANTAS. but dont just take the "right" because the media are telling you bullsh!t. find the other side of the story. i have flown with QANTAS my whole life. ill be on a QANTAS flight every year, sometimes 2 or 3 times a year, depends if i go on holiday

and they are an awesum airline. but every airline has mishaps, and you should be thankful that QANTAS isnt like those airlines that have an accident every year or 2. that oxyfen cylinder is the worst thing to happen 2 QANTAS for a long long time. and compared to other airlines...that was nothing. you should look up american airlines DC-10's. The one where maintanence put the engine in wrong and on take off it shot off and the plane lifted off then crashed into a caravan park.

[vnv8driver]

i have flown with them on previous occasions as well with no problem but it only takes one chance of a stuffup occuring that your life may be over or you could be injured so if i can avoid using the service i will but if im going to take a flight somewhere i wouldnt steer completely clear of it and be a wuss, like everyone else you take the chance

[electro cruiser]

thats the spirit!! lol
but your more safer flying with QANTAS then probably anyother airline

[STEALTHY™]

i have flown with them on previous occasions as well with no problem but it only takes one chance of a stuffup occuring that your life may be over or you could be injured so if i can avoid using the service i will but if im going to take a flight somewhere i wouldnt steer completely clear of it and be a wuss, like everyone else you take the chance

If your worried about air safety, you shouldn't fly full stop. Theres always a risk. If you want to fly with the smallest risk out of all aitlines, fly Qantas.

And i said you call yourself australian because you put a U in Qantas. Every aussie should know the correct spelling.