Teens get takeaway at fatal crash site

[calais_304]

Teens get takeaway food at fatal crash | National Breaking News | News.com.au

well all im going to say on this is, if it is found that the elderly couple didn't do the right thing on the roundabout then personally (yes im heartless) i would have abused them first, then sat there....but if they (teens) were the ones at fault on the roundabout then they are just plain scum for not helping.

[minux]

Erm, it doesn't matter what happened, this cockhead was driving unlicensed, unregistered and had not long had his car impounded. Does not take a rocket scientist to work out who was in the wrong here.

[calais_304]

Erm, it doesn't matter what happened, this cockhead was driving unlicensed, unregistered and had not long had his car impounded. Does not take a rocket scientist to work out who was in the wrong here.

i was more so talking about the action each took at the roundabout....either way your right shouldn't have been driving with a licence and unregistered car...but i have a licence and a registered car so my point stands :P

[Rufus®]

Teens get takeaway food at fatal crash | National Breaking News | News.com.au

well all im going to say on this is, if it is found that the elderly couple didn't do the right thing on the roundabout then personally (yes im heartless) i would have abused them first, then sat there....but if they (teens) were the ones at fault on the roundabout then they are just plain scum for not helping.

So as long as you're not at fault you don't have to render assistance? What a ****ed up world you live in.

[aella]

it doesnt really matter what happened.. when someone is seriously hurt, u help.. end of story

[Scooter79]

The Subaru and it's owner were known to poilice, The car had already been impounded this month, The driver was charged with obstructing police while three others were handcuffed. Just hang the mongrels from the nearest tree and be done with them.

[Farlig]

to be brutely honest, i wouldnt assit anyone with cpr or the likes, in this day and age. people will sue you if you bring them back from death and they have complications, and family/rel's of the person will sue you if you give cpr and they die anyways. not to mention who knows what kinda diseases they got if they bleeding.

[TVR-190]

to be brutely honest, i wouldnt assit anyone with cpr or the likes, in this day and age. people will sue you if you bring them back from death and they have complications, and family/rel's of the person will sue you if you give cpr and they die anyways. not to mention who knows what kinda diseases they got if they bleeding.

true that, not to mention someone would probably hit you with their car while ur helping them

[Grennan]

I dont think giving CPR is the issue, the issue is they called for food before they called an ambulance.

[TVR-190]

well yeah then theyre are scum, but if cops and ambos had been there and theyd been waiting around for a few hours i dont think itd be an issue

[Shounak]

This is only a partial story. They may have called the ambo's or cops and were waiting for them to arrive. Or they may have heard that someone else called the ambo's.

I understand that helping is seen as the right thing to do, but it can also do more harm than good. I've heard of motorcyclists who have become quadraplegics, simply because someone attempted to remove their helmet without knowing the correct procedure. In a lot of cases the people would be better off if the amateurs sat back and waited for the professionals to do what they do.

I think everyone's getting upset that they can just sit there and eat Maccas after a car crash. After my big crash, I got home and went out to order a Pounder. Different people cope with stress in different ways. These kids were obviously in shock and that was their way of dealing with it.

Who's at fault in this crash is irrelevant to the details being offered in the article.

[STEALTHY™]

This is only a partial story. They may have called the ambo's or cops and were waiting for them to arrive. Or they may have heard that someone else called the ambo's.

I understand that helping is seen as the right thing to do, but it can also do more harm than good. I've heard of motorcyclists who have become quadraplegics, simply because someone attempted to remove their helmet without knowing the correct procedure. In a lot of cases the people would be better off if the amateurs sat back and waited for the professionals to do what they do.

I think everyone's getting upset that they can just sit there and eat Maccas after a car crash. After my big crash, I got home and went out to order a Pounder. Different people cope with stress in different ways. These kids were obviously in shock and that was their way of dealing with it.

Who's at fault in this crash is irrelevant to the details being offered in the article.

Basically what i was thinking aswell.

If i'm in a crash, i'll help the other people get away from the car if it looks like its going to explode, but i wont be giving CPR either.

[padrickz88]

Basically what i was thinking aswell.

If i'm in a crash, i'll help the other people get away from the car if it looks like its going to explode, but i wont be giving CPR either.

X2... First thing we got taught at school was if someone is injured DONT help them out of the car etc etc, call an ambulance and police and let them deal with it... Because they know exactly what to do in that situation and the right procedure.

Obviously in a situation like stealthy gave i would be more then happy to help if a car was going to blow up etc

[SAV_117]

you have to render assitance if you are involved ina car accident its actually the law ive read it somewhere before just trying to dig it up from somewhere

[TVR-190]

you have to render assitance...

As long as its safe to do, if someones crashed into a volcano and are burning alive are you going to jump into the lava to save them, i know its a bit over the top but im pretty sure you dont, most people wouldnt know what to do in the situation and cause more harm then good.

[minux]

I would love to see how many people COULD actually give CPR correctly. Some of the stories we heard from medics in the army were hilarious about people who claimed to know CPR but had no clue.

[BANKS]

Yeah I heard that you legally have to help someone if death is imamate too. In the SES if the car is on fire you are allowed to do anything to get them out, it doesn’t matter what condition they are in, first priority is to get them out of the car, then again the SES are except from getting sued in such a situation.

**** The law if someone is dying...

[ProphetVX]

This is only a partial story. They may have called the ambo's or cops and were waiting for them to arrive. Or they may have heard that someone else called the ambo's.

I understand that helping is seen as the right thing to do, but it can also do more harm than good. I've heard of motorcyclists who have become quadraplegics, simply because someone attempted to remove their helmet without knowing the correct procedure. In a lot of cases the people would be better off if the amateurs sat back and waited for the professionals to do what they do.

I think everyone's getting upset that they can just sit there and eat Maccas after a car crash. After my big crash, I got home and went out to order a Pounder. Different people cope with stress in different ways. These kids were obviously in shock and that was their way of dealing with it.

Who's at fault in this crash is irrelevant to the details being offered in the article.

Spot on. OMG they ate food while they sat in shock of what they just saw, how terrible...

I'd never touch anyone at a serious crash site, you don't know what injuries they have, and I'm certainly not qualified to diagnose what their issues are, unless its a car on fire, there is no logical reason that you should try and remove or help them.. The ambulance was called, it arrived.

They're teenagers as well, so they aren't as well equipped to handle situations like these (not that anyone ever is). I think it's more disgraceful that anyone can judge these people without really knowing what was going through their heads at the time. When I had my crash (it was pretty serious), I couldn't speak for an hour, which included when police asked me questions. My brain was ticking over, I just couldn't speak. People handle shock very differently.

[Philthy]

The kids would have been in shock. I know I was a mess after my accident last year, and noone was even hurt then.

As far as giving assistance, I would take the risk of being sued over sitting and watching somebody die then spending the rest of my life thinking 'what if...'

[STEALTHY™]

The kids would have been in shock. I know I was a mess after my accident last year, and noone was even hurt then.

As far as giving assistance, I would take the risk of being sued over sitting and watching somebody die then spending the rest of my life thinking 'what if...'

But were talking about in the case of the elderly couple in the car, nothing you could have done could have saved the man from dying.

Everyone has said, if the car is on fire, they'd get the person out. But as far as performing CPR, thats not the law, otherwise everyone would have to have a first aid certificate to get a license.

[ProphetVX]

you have to render assitance if you are involved ina car accident its actually the law ive read it somewhere before just trying to dig it up from somewhere

If that is the case, then risk management and first aid course should be compulsory for attainment of a drivers license. I highly doubt that it is the law to do anything other than call the appropriate authorities, otherwise the government would have some nice legal battles on their hands.

[Stressball]

If that is the case, then risk management and first aid course should be compulsory for attainment of a drivers license. I highly doubt that it is the law to do anything other than call the appropriate authorities, otherwise the government would have some nice legal battles on their hands.

It is the case for anybody *who has completed a first aid/CPR course* I believe. I have done the CPR course through my work, we were told that since we had the knowledge and certificate, it was our duty legally to offer assistance.

[ProphetVX]

It is the case for anybody *who has completed a first aid/CPR course* I believe. I have done the CPR course through my work, we were told that since we had the knowledge and certificate, it was our duty legally to offer assistance.

And what if you're not confident in your ability? ie haven't done a refresher course in the last 2 years?

I did a CPR course when I was 16. I'm now 26, no chance in hell I'd ever be confident of touching someone now, especially given that the courses change on a yearly basis.

Personally, I believe irrespective of whatever courses you've done, unless you work in the health industry, there should be no legal obligation to help. Morally no doubt you're obliged to help, but you'd never be legally forced to do anything.

It's a skill that if executed incorrectly can kill someone, surely the government realises this and does not enforce it?

[Farlig]

It is the case for anybody *who has completed a first aid/CPR course* I believe. I have done the CPR course through my work, we were told that since we had the knowledge and certificate, it was our duty legally to offer assistance.

that also means under NO circumstance are you to stop giving CPR until an ambulance gets there, if your doing it for like 30mins and stop from exhaustion, you can be charged with murder, neglect etc. so why bother in first place, i have seen some messed up outcomes from these types of scenarios. I did first aid training for work, when your not at work and your walking around in public does not mean you must provide assistance, I have that knowledge for if a family, relative or friend is in need. So if you think im cold for not assisting, you better become my friend lol

[Robbo_c]

It is the case for anybody *who has completed a first aid/CPR course* I believe. I have done the CPR course through my work, we were told that since we had the knowledge and certificate, it was our duty legally to offer assistance.

Exactly thats what i got told at the first aid course i did.The guy said you might as well try cpr on someone because even if they do die you at least tryed to help them. I would like to think that if i was involved in an accident that required cpr that someone would help me.