who's in the wrong?

[metalfossil]

I was behind a car travelling towards a roundabout yesterday. This car in front didn't even attempt to slow down at the roundabout. I was already looking towards the right anticipating that this bloke in front had already checked and it was clear.

Trouble was there was another motorist also entering the roundabout from the right and also not slowing down. Both these idiots met square on in the middle. They were both travelling at about 20/25 kphs so the damage was significant.

Who is in the wrong?

[Shounak]

The person in front of you

[stocky]

guy in front of you for not giving way to the right. im guessing you stopped in time not to hit anyone?

[Tom_1569]

You have to give way to traffic all ready on the round about, so who ever entered last is in the wrong, which would be the guy infront of you unless the other bloke was absolutly flying.

The give way to the right isnt the law, but it is common sense lol.

[SAV_117]

GUY in front but there both idiots for not checking and anticipating what each would do

[Reaper]

Generally cars need to give way to those already on the roundabout. If two or more cars arrive at the same time (or nearly the same time), then the basic give way to your right rule would apply and thus the car in front of you may be in a lot of trouble.

Reaper

[metalfossil]

guy in front of you for not giving way to the right. im guessing you stopped in time not to hit anyone?

That's the trouble with roundabouts; there isn't a give way to the right rule. Although most people assume that there is and that's why people on the right generally just fly through them and other folks just ususally give way to them...

Yeah, I stopped in time. Thanks for asking

[Paytz]

Yeah the guy in front of you. In QLD the douchebags turn right from the left hand lane and almost wipe me out at least once a week. then give you this dumb blank stare when you tell them how to use a roundabout.

[hsvpunk]

Always give way to your right....
But at what speed was the person on the right entering??? thats where the law can get you.

[metalfossil]

Always give way to your right....
But at what speed was the person on the right entering??? thats where the law can get you.

Both cars were travelling at about 20/25kphs. It was the strangest thing both vehicles entered the roundabout at almost exactly the same time. Although if I was a betting man I'd say the guy in front of me was about a head to a neck in front...

[minux]

As per the Australian Road Rules:

114 Giving way when entering or driving in a
roundabout
(1) A driver entering a roundabout must give way to:
(a) any vehicle in the roundabout; and
(b) a tram that is entering or approaching the roundabout.
Offence provision.
Note 1 Tram is defined in the dictionary.
Note 2 For this rule, give way means the driver must slow down and, if
necessary, stop to avoid a collision — see the definition in the
dictionary

[metalfossil]

As per the Australian Road Rules:

114 Giving way when entering or driving in a
roundabout
(1) A driver entering a roundabout must give way to:
(a) any vehicle in the roundabout; and
(b) a tram that is entering or approaching the roundabout.
Offence provision.
Note 1 Tram is defined in the dictionary.
Note 2 For this rule, give way means the driver must slow down and, if
necessary, stop to avoid a collision — see the definition in the
dictionary

Okay, so why do most driver's think that the vehicles on the right at a roundabout have right of way?

[minux]

Okay, so why do most driver's think that the vehicles on the right at a roundabout have right of way?

No idea, I am dying to get hit at a round about from a speeding driver just to screw them over

[Grennan]

Since when do trams use roundabouts?

[metalfossil]

Since when do trams use roundabouts?

Minux, am I allowed to answer this one???

[minux]

Since when do trams use roundabouts?

Maybe drunk tram drivers liek to go for a cruise off the rails?

Minux, am I allowed to answer this one???

Hmm is there any round abouts where trams go?

[stocky]

if there is, i want a google maps reference

[metalfossil]

Maybe drunk tram drivers liek to go for a cruise off the rails?

Let me tell you a story...no I'd better not.



Hmm is there any round abouts where trams go?

The biggest intersection in Melbourne is a roundabout: Haymarket Roundabout. Also the No.1s to South Melb Beach driver through roundabouts. Flemington Racecourse Roundabout...

[minux]

Flemington Racecourse Roundabout...

Isn't that traffic lighted now?

[danja]

Okay, so why do most driver's think that the vehicles on the right at a roundabout have right of way?

Because they are the ones most likely to hit you if you don't give way to them.

[Tom_1569]

Theres a round about that trams use on Elizabeth parade near the royal melbourne hospital isnt there? Its like kinda oval shaped?

[Morton]

if there is, i want a google maps reference

Google Maps

[Grennan]

Ha I tend to avoid the city in my car.

[ProphetVX]

Okay, so why do most driver's think that the vehicles on the right at a roundabout have right of way?

It's implicit, any vehicle on the right of you is technically in the roundabout before you, or will be. That is unless they are speeding through the roundabout and you pull out infront of them, in either case whoever is on the right would be deemed to be on the roundabout first.

Good luck arguing in a court that you were on the roundabout first when someone plows into the side of you and excessive speed was not a determining factor.

[Shortstuff]

Hmm is there any round abouts where trams go?

Mount Alexander road in Essendon has a few on it that trams go through.