Problem with society

[ScoHar]

This little paragraph I read in the local newspaper this morning. I thought to myself how right this guy is and encourage all of you to read the below and tell me your thoughts on the article.

I believe this to be true and it saddens me to think our next generation are just going to be screwed. I know its long but bear with me

Problem with society
Who would want to be a small child in the 21st century? Virtually from the moment of birth you'd be given the message that other people's needs take priority over yours.

Within hours of being born, you're bundled out of hospital because the health system considers there are more important things to do with the health dollar than allow new mothers time to bond with their babies. Mother struggling with breast-feeding? No support at home? Tough. Out you go.

Before you're a few months old you're likely to find yourself being left at a creche each morning so that Mum can go to work, because a relentlessly acquisitive, consumerist society has convinced a generation of parents that owning a flash house, driving a late-model car and pursuing a career are more important than raising their children.

At weekends, you're liable to find yourself being dressed in cute designer-label clothes and dragged off to a trendy cafe, where you're expected to behave yourself patiently while your parents slurp latte and read the Sunday paper.

And on the rare occasions when you're taken for a walk in a pushchair – or baby-buggy, to use the cutesy-wutesy name now preferred – you're propelled toward a procession of bewildering, and possibly frightening, strangers.

The recent report of a Dundee University study that showed forward-facing pushchairs might impair children's development shouldn't have come as a surprise to anyone.

When a small child is facing its parent there is constant interaction between the two. The Dundee study found, predictably, that this stimulated brain development.

Conversely, the study concluded that babies facing away from the pusher could be "emotionally impoverished" and even suffer stress. The language is a bit melodramatic but the message is simple enough.

There are obvious practical reasons, too, why the rear-facing pushchair is preferable. It means that whoever's pushing can see instantly if anything is wrong, such as the child choking or being dazzled by the sun, or a wasp landing on its face.

But the vagaries of fashion dictate that the forward-facing buggy is the way to go. Forward-facing pushchairs are now so prevalent that it's hard to find an old- fashioned one in which the child faces the pusher.

I suspect the appeal of the forward-facing pushchair has more to do with the gratification of parents than with the comfort and wellbeing of the child.

Couples are delaying having children because their careers take priority. When they finally get around to it, they often behave as if this most basic biological feat is something no one has ever accomplished before.

The child then becomes an advertisement for the parents, a fashion accessory to be shown off for maximum advantage. This is accomplished far more effectively when the unfortunate infant is facing forward.

CURMUDGEON - KARL DU FRESNE

[minux]

Couples are delaying having children because their careers take priority. When they finally get around to it, they often behave as if this most basic biological feat is something no one has ever accomplished before.

Well, gee, we are sorry that we would like to be able to give our future children(if any) everything they need without assistance from the government. Who the **** wants kids without owning a house, without a decent income etc?

[ScoHar]

Well, gee, we are sorry that we would like to be able to give our future children(if any) everything they need without assistance from the government. Who the **** wants kids without owning a house, without a decent income etc?

Its not that part he's talking about being bad its the 'When they finally get around to it, they often behave as if this most basic biological feat is something no one has ever accomplished before' hes having a moan about=.

I also think it is great people waiting to have children, having the money a nice home 2 parents etc.

[ScoHar]

too much reading>?

[minux]

too early in the morning

Who would want to be a small child in the 21st century? Virtually from the moment of birth you'd be given the message that other people's needs take priority over yours.

This here ****es me off. It ****s me when do gooders think they are heroes for caring about poor people etc. Anyone heard of darwinism? If people took more time to care about their own lives then we would have less pathetic laws in place etc. I will be bringing up my children if any to believe that THEY are the number one priority in their life and all that they are too care about until settle din life is themselves, their family and friends. Nothing else matters in life apart from that.


This post should get the bleeding hearts going

[ScoHar]

too early in the morning



This here ****es me off. It ****s me when do gooders think they are heroes for caring about poor people etc. Anyone heard of darwinism? If people took more time to care about their own lives then we would have less pathetic laws in place etc. I will be bringing up my children if any to believe that THEY are the number one priority in their life and all that they are too care about until settle din life is themselves, their family and friends. Nothing else matters in life apart from that.


This post should get the bleeding hearts going

Yes your right, people need to mind their own business, to a degree. I'm in no way a doo gooder, but see this article applies to well (**** I hope no one see's this) my brothers and a guy I work, they have wives that fit into this exact category and well Its ****ing me off, of course they're not going to see this as its their wife/life, but when I see my relations (nieces and nephews) getting put on the back burner due to money/fashion hungry mothers that need to have all the latest stuff etc, it sucks to think I can do nothing about it. I'm NOT going to hit my brothers/work mate up about it as its a sensitive subject the only way people are going to do something about this is if its been brought into the masses of people. Basically what im getting at is if your a mother/father your children should be your top priority, not hanging out with your mates not going shopping and not flogging your kids off to other people to look after so you can 'have a break'. What happened in the old days? these new mothers have it sooo hard (sarcasm).

Just wait and see what happens in the future generations? im only 23 and im terrified how my life will be as a elderly person.

[pow3rslave]

too early in the morning



This here ****es me off. It ****s me when do gooders think they are heroes for caring about poor people etc. Anyone heard of darwinism? If people took more time to care about their own lives then we would have less pathetic laws in place etc. I will be bringing up my children if any to believe that THEY are the number one priority in their life and all that they are too care about until settle din life is themselves, their family and friends. Nothing else matters in life apart from that.


This post should get the bleeding hearts going

it's probably completely off topic but i think the same thing, but it extends to animals, i was listening to someone talk about some show the other day about how some moose was born premature and the mother abandoned it and carers took it in and nursed it and released it.
newsflash, nature is tough going, if it was abandoned it was for a reason, now you've set loose a set of genes into the wild that will result in a weaker genepool and possibly more prem birthed animals.

this is why i also don't favour cosmetic surgery or braces, just masking bad genetics, by 2100 we'll all have teeth growing out our freaking cheekbones.

[Julie]

I know so many parents like that it isn't funny. Unfortunately in todays society the way children are raised is usually one extreme or the other. You have these dole bludging teenage single mum scrags with fags hanging out mouth getting money thrown at them or you have the career woman with eggs on ice, too good to even gove natural birth to their own child so booked in for caesarian on a convenient day, won't pop out a tit to feed the child straight onto chemical laden formula and shipped off to daycare when they are 6 weeks old for 12 hours a day so mummy and daddy can have that 6 bedroom house with triple garage and new cars.

I just take great comfort in knowing I don't fit in either of these categories and that we are giving our children the best start to life that we can Thats all you can do hey? Look after your own and let everyone else get on with it

[ScoHar]

GREAT REPLY ^^

You have really summed up my feelings on this topic with that.

[pow3rslave]

And on the rare occasions when you're taken for a walk in a pushchair – or baby-buggy, to use the cutesy-wutesy name now preferred – you're propelled toward a procession of bewildering, and possibly frightening, strangers.

The recent report of a Dundee University study that showed forward-facing pushchairs might impair children's development shouldn't have come as a surprise to anyone.

When a small child is facing its parent there is constant interaction between the two. The Dundee study found, predictably, that this stimulated brain development.

i'm seeing older and older kids in pushers.
it was probably only a matter of time after every car got a dvd player, but 2 weeks or so ago i saw what would have been a 4 year old in a pusher, with a portable dvd player on his lap.
it even had a sticker on it with his name, like regular kids used to have on their lunchboxes

[VL_5SPEED]

Well we don't need no one to tell us what to do
Oh yes we're on our own
And theres nothing you can do
So we don't need no one like you
To tell us what to do

We don't refer to the past
When showing what we've done
Our generation gap
Means the war is never won
The past is in your head
THE FUTURE'S IN OUR HANDS!

Cos I'm a brat
And I know everything
And I talk back
Cos I'm not listening
To anything you say

And if you count to 3 (one, two, three)
You'll see it's no emergency
You'll see I'm not the enemy
Just a Prisoner of Society

[pow3rslave]

the living end are my favourite boy band too

[Stressball]

Lol. The Living End used to be good. Then they started the new stuff and it all went downhill from there

Do-gooders are the bane of human existance. As are hippies, PETA members, vegans and soccer mums

[VL_5SPEED]

Lol. The Living End used to be good. Then they started the new stuff and it all went downhill from there

Do-gooders are the bane of human existance. As are hippies, PETA members, vegans and soccer mums

Same thing with greenday, blink 182, linkin park.....

[ScoHar]

I think this thread is loosing the plot. where did doo gooders come into it?

[calais_304]

Do-gooders are the bane of human existance. As are hippies, PETA members, vegans and soccer mums

if only we could cull them, and to add to that, bitter old people.

[Stressball]

I think this thread is loosing the plot. where did doo gooders come into it?

First sentence of your quoted passage. Referring to people's own needs being put after everybody else's. The expectation that this should be the case for everybody else.