Infestation of NOOBS on the highways!?

[greenfoam]

Ive noticed something these last couple of weeks out on the highways.
Now usually driving along on the highways at night around here, everyone will get there highbeams off well before the other car (me) is in direct line of sight. But I've really noticed since the holiday season started that theres a huge change in the highway skills of the average driver out there right now. Most people aren't pulling the lights down untill a few seconds and some not at all, must be heaps of noobs from the city getting out in the world lately. That's all really anyone else noticed this?.

It's started to annoy me so much some slow driving nut job with his high beams on in my road got some high beam payback just before I turned into my driveway the other night. It got him to shut his off but I was quite suprised to see it was the cops as they went past oops even the cops are noobs during the holidays

[Pub247]

LOl i hate that aswell though i whinge about 4WD's aswell because the lights are at eye level with you . Maybe i'm just jealous because old commo's have the worst headl;ights most of the time they're only half decent on high beam

[DanVN]

I was quite suprised to see it was the cops as they went past oops even the cops are noobs during the holidays

Lol had the same thing happen the other night ... blasted a car with my higbeams after he sat across from the lights with his highbeams on ... Turned out to be an unmarked VE

[Bax]

I flashed a car one night thinking they had highbeam on, only for it to be a 4wd and I copped high beam and spotties, nearly blinded me.

It's very annoying. Amazing how many people forget they even have it on though.

Heard that one of my friends got pulled over after flashing the cops to turn theirs off. Not too sure how true that is though.

I'm constantly flashing taxi's as well. Highbeam combined with headlights that seem to point up at street signs is annoying.

[commsirac]

I find it more irritating with the "noobs" around town who have to drive around with their fog lights on. They have to have at least a Calais or SS comm or similar to have these as standard equipment. Some appear to want to have two sets of lights going in a "look at me" type mindset.

Yes, it is illegal in vic at least, because the beam doesnt have definite cut offs to the right of the car, which obviously affects oncoming traffic.

Some even think they are called driving lights and are there to enhance normal low beam conditions, No,"driving lights" are the lights that are used in addition to high beam to enhance distance vision.

Neither "driving lights" or "fog lamps" should be used in built up areas or when approaching or following other cars in normal conditions

[Pub247]

I flashed a car one night thinking they had highbeam on, only for it to be a 4wd and I copped high beam and spotties, nearly blinded me.

It's very annoying. Amazing how many people forget they even have it on though.

Heard that one of my friends got pulled over after flashing the cops to turn theirs off. Not too sure how true that is though.

I'm constantly flashing taxi's as well. Highbeam combined with headlights that seem to point up at street signs is annoying.

LOL my old Vk had one headlight like that. I fondly reffered to it as my possum spotter

[ashbox]

I flashed a car one night thinking they had highbeam on, only for it to be a 4wd and I copped high beam and spotties, nearly blinded me.

i laugh when that happens especially when i'm the one showing i still have high beam to go

[danja]

I find it more irritating with the "noobs" around town who have to drive around with their fog lights on. They have to have at least a Calais or SS comm or similar to have these as standard equipment. Some appear to want to have two sets of lights going in a "look at me" type mindset.

Yes, that's exactly why I do it sometime, I just didn't get enough attention as a child. It's got nothing to do with any of the safety-enhancing qualities of careful fog light use, it's just that I like people to look at me because I know when they do they're thinking "Wow, that guy in the SS with his fog lights on is real hot ****! "

...or alternatively you may have completely misinterpreted why people do this

[greenfoam]

LOl i hate that aswell though i whinge about 4WD's aswell because the lights are at eye level with you . Maybe i'm just jealous because old commo's have the worst headl;ights most of the time they're only half decent on high beam

Oh yeah most of the holiday makers seem to be driving land cruisers too which makes it twice as bad. I have seen people beam my wife in her Jeep telling her to shut the high beams but shes allways has them off well before the other car got around the corner and so she happily responds with "You want to see high beams BITCHES" lol

[padrickz88]

Lol had the same thing happen the other night ... blasted a car with my higbeams after he sat across from the lights with his highbeams on ... Turned out to be an unmarked VE

And he didnt defect you? lmao
btw whens the stato coming?

Dont worry jason, happens alot in area's just out of melbourne (but not quite bush)...
My mate was driving my car and he turned the highbeams off and then the oncoming person didn't turn there's off so he flashed them and guess what? STILL ON so he throws it on highbeams and we fly past then he ****s himself because its a cop car, they braked almost to a complete stop and he only had one point left lmao

Was worth the laugh but oh my god does it **** me off!

btw prado's are the worst ever for a lowered car, you get blinded in all directions!

[minux]

Ive noticed something these last couple of weeks out on the highways.
Now usually driving along on the highways at night around here, everyone will get there highbeams off well before the other car (me) is in direct line of sight. But I've really noticed since the holiday season started that theres a huge change in the highway skills of the average driver out there right now. Most people aren't pulling the lights down untill a few seconds and some not at all, must be heaps of noobs from the city getting out in the world lately. That's all really anyone else noticed this?.

It's started to annoy me so much some slow driving nut job with his high beams on in my road got some high beam payback just before I turned into my driveway the other night. It got him to shut his off but I was quite suprised to see it was the cops as they went past oops even the cops are noobs during the holidays

foam, i think this pretty much sums up all the latest reports that proves speed is not the main factor in accidents even when people are speeding, it is concentration. People have none of it. It is much like all these tossers who seem to think that driving in the right lane on multi lane freeways is cool. I have noticed many of them do not actually know there is a car behind them.

New campaigns need to stop worrying about speeding and start concentrating on the real issue with almost every road accident in Australia, Concentration.

[danja]

foam, i think this pretty much sums up all the latest reports that proves speed is not the main factor in accidents even when people are speeding, it is concentration. People have none of it. It is much like all these tossers who seem to think that driving in the right lane on multi lane freeways is cool. I have noticed many of them do not actually know there is a car behind them.

New campaigns need to stop worrying about speeding and start concentrating on the real issue with almost every road accident in Australia, Concentration.

Here here.

It boggles my mind how people just aren't aware of what is going on around them when they drive. I was always taught to scan my mirrors every few seconds and keep a mental map of what is around your car. It's a habit that's stuck. Saved me a few times.

[calais_304]

foam, i think this pretty much sums up all the latest reports that proves speed is not the main factor in accidents even when people are speeding, it is concentration. People have none of it. It is much like all these tossers who seem to think that driving in the right lane on multi lane freeways is cool. I have noticed many of them do not actually know there is a car behind them.

New campaigns need to stop worrying about speeding and start concentrating on the real issue with almost every road accident in Australia, Concentration.

agree and have been saying it for years, also believe confindence to be a big part to...i see alot of people do stupid things on the road (especially at merging areas) simply because they freak out or have no idea what to do.

[Skitz]

I find it more irritating with the "noobs" around town who have to drive around with their fog lights on. They have to have at least a Calais or SS comm or similar to have these as standard equipment. Some appear to want to have two sets of lights going in a "look at me" type mindset.

Yes, it is illegal in vic at least, because the beam doesnt have definite cut offs to the right of the car, which obviously affects oncoming traffic.

Some even think they are called driving lights and are there to enhance normal low beam conditions, No,"driving lights" are the lights that are used in addition to high beam to enhance distance vision.

Neither "driving lights" or "fog lamps" should be used in built up areas or when approaching or following other cars in normal conditions

I see more of this type of thing on the highway and suburban streets alike rather than high beam stuff ups.
I see it happen during the peak of day.....why?
And don't feed me the visibility line, it is BS.

[commsirac]

Yes, that's exactly why I do it sometime, I just didn't get enough attention as a child. It's got nothing to do with any of the safety-enhancing qualities of careful fog light use, it's just that I like people to look at me because I know when they do they're thinking "Wow, that guy in the SS with his fog lights on is real hot ****! "

...or alternatively you may have completely misinterpreted why people do this

It may enhance vision the of the driver, as does putting high beams on in suburbia....but for much the same reasons(it interferes with the vision of other drivers) it has been declared illegal, fairly simple stuff, obey the laws whether you think they are a good idea or not.

If you find seeing the road difficult in suburbia with street lights and just regular headlights, it would be perhaps suggest you have a vision problem.

[And_ROOS]

I see more of this type of thing on the highway and suburban streets alike rather than high beam stuff ups.
I see it happen during the peak of day.....why?
And don't feed me the visibility line, it is BS.

Im pretty sure ive seen statistics about how people with headlights on during the day lowers their collision rate, wouldnt driving lights be a part of that?

Ive never been blinded by someone with driving lights on, just when they have the high beams on.

[Stressball]

It may enhance vision the of the driver...

No. People have them on so other cars can see them that little bit easier. Non-directional lights draw attention but do not blind, so they increase awareness of that particular car.

If you find seeing the road difficult in suburbia with street lights and just regular headlights, it would be perhaps suggest you have a vision problem.

Not the issue. I'm almost certain you've argued against this point quite recently, did you just forget the point of the lights, or are you deliberately misunderstanding now so that you can argue more?

[danja]

It may enhance vision the of the driver, as does putting high beams on in suburbia....but for much the same reasons(it interferes with the vision of other drivers) it has been declared illegal, fairly simple stuff, obey the laws whether you think they are a good idea or not.

If you find seeing the road difficult in suburbia with street lights and just regular headlights, it would be perhaps suggest you have a vision problem.

We've covered this ground before, it's not to enhance my visibility , it's to enhance others' visibility of me. Actually it is "look at me", but not for any of the egotistical reasons you're implying, it's to stop people crashing into me.

The idea is they are much more visible than just parkers, but less dazzling than high beams or normal headlights.

I'll ask again if you can explain the logic behind this law, and how my logic is flawed. If I can see the sense in it I'll gladly adjust my behaviour, but as it stands I believe what I do makes the roads safer, even if it does **** you off.

[Stressball]

...what I do makes the roads safer, even if it does **** you off.

What doesn't?

[commsirac]

We've covered this ground before, it's not to enhance my visibility , it's to enhance others' visibility of me. Actually it is "look at me", but not for any of the egotistical reasons you're implying, it's to stop people crashing into me.

The idea is they are much more visible than just parkers, but less dazzling than high beams or normal headlights.

I'll ask again if you can explain the logic behind this law, and how my logic is flawed. If I can see the sense in it I'll gladly adjust my behaviour, but as it stands I believe what I do makes the roads safer, even if it does **** you off.

Do you need the logic in other laws explained to you before you will obey them. Really, that's why we have many laws and regs, because some people have no idea they are doing the wrong thing and/or never will understand why they are doing the wrong thing.

For what its worth, though I sense Im wasting my breath( so to speak/type) I believe the reason(there may be others too) is that fog lights are designed to make a nice spread in front of the car, both to the right and to the left, so one can see the edges of the road in fog/snow conditions. There is no sharp cut off of the beam to the right side of the vehicle, unlike on your low beam lights where they should not shine on to the other side of the road to any extent. We have headlights that are specifically designed for lhd and rhd, there is no such criteria for foglights....it would make them useless for when they are really needed.

The other aspect is that there is a maxiumum limit for the amount of light intensity(which is more than likely exceeded with additional lamps) that can be legally used on a car in built up areas, as this will also impair the vision of uncoming drivers.

[commsirac]

Im pretty sure ive seen statistics about how people with headlights on during the day lowers their collision rate, wouldnt driving lights be a part of that?

Ive never been blinded by someone with driving lights on, just when they have the high beams on.

All part of the problem!

Driving lights are the lights that are used in addition to high beam, they can be pencil spotties or wider spread lights, which personally I find quite blinding when the oncoming car is operating them . They should only of course be used when in non built up areas and when there is no oncoming traffic.

Whether the additional lamps that are found on some vehicles are fog or driving lights, it doesnt matter, it is against regulations to use them in street lit areas or when facing oncoming traffic.

Assuming the lights are properly wired according to state regs: If the additional lights only operate on high beam, they are driving lights. If they can be operated without high beam, they are fog lights.

[STEALTHY™]

Do you need the logic in other laws explained to you before you will obey them. Really, that's why we have many laws and regs, because some people have no idea they are doing the wrong thing and/or never will understand why they are doing the wrong thing.

For what its worth, though I sense Im wasting my breath( so to speak/type) I believe the reason(there may be others too) is that fog lights are designed to make a nice spread in front of the car, both to the right and to the left, so one can see the edges of the road in fog/snow conditions. There is no sharp cut off of the beam to the right side of the vehicle, unlike on your low beam lights where they should not shine on to the other side of the road to any extent. We have headlights that are specifically designed for lhd and rhd, there is no such criteria for foglights....it would make them useless for when they are really needed.

Successfully sent another thread off topic. He asked you to explain how it is unsafe? His lights (like mine) don't hit other drivers in the eye. Incorrectly fitted aftermarket fog lights will cause this problem.

I've never been fined for it, and been pulled into RBTs many times. They either don't care, or they know people do it so moron road users can see their car.

I find it more irritating with the "noobs" around town who have to drive around with their fog lights on. They have to have at least a Calais or SS comm or similar to have these as standard equipment. Some appear to want to have two sets of lights going in a "look at me" type mindset.

Yes, it is illegal in vic at least, because the beam doesnt have definite cut offs to the right of the car, which obviously affects oncoming traffic.

Some even think they are called driving lights and are there to enhance normal low beam conditions, No,"driving lights" are the lights that are used in addition to high beam to enhance distance vision.

Neither "driving lights" or "fog lamps" should be used in built up areas or when approaching or following other cars in normal conditions

Wrong thread, once again.

Stop Trolling!

[commsirac]

Wrong thread, once again.

Stop Trolling!

Its about the highways being infested by knoobs who dont know how/dont care about using their lights, I dont think I was off topic at all, put a complaint into a mod if you feel this valuable thread has been corrupted hijacked etc, rather than being troublesome on the forum pages.

And fwds etc with lights that blind oncoming drivers with their lights on low beam and then think its humorous to then further blind them by turning their lights on to high beam, reasons as to why we dont need any more 4wd cowboy drivers on the road. Have these people bothered getting their headlight aim checked after other road users have indicated to them that they are getting blinded by their vehicle, or dont they care.

sure the reason as to why their low beams blind people may not be clear, but it is certainly not all 4wd vehicles that do this. Perhaps there is a problem with headlights and other drivers being at different heights etc, and the problem needs to be addressed by the authorities.

[STEALTHY™]

Indeed, its a select few, with aftermarket lights.

Hardly worth swaying the topic, when there are countless other threads that have already covered this issue 100 times.

[Skitz]

Successfully sent another thread off topic. He asked you to explain how it is unsafe? His lights (like mine) don't hit other drivers in the eye. Incorrectly fitted aftermarket fog lights will cause this problem.

I've never been fined for it, and been pulled into RBTs many times. They either don't care, or they know people do it so moron road users can see their car.




Wrong thread, once again.

Stop Trolling!

I have found his logic to be quite reasonable, unlike your dismal reply.
Thats right, your one of those fools who uses them during the day, I see it all the time and if you ask me you are the one trolling.
You obviously get some sort of thrill replying to his so called BS.You feed plenty of that yourself to JC members, so let go of it and f-off.