What is aussie culture though?
There are so many cultures that have integrated and become apart of Australia its hard to say which one is THE culture.
Chinese have been in the country as long as Europeans, and have always had different traditions. Yet they've managed to co-exist for the better part of two hundred years.
Italian/Greek/Macedonian cultrures have been here for the better part of a century and have managed to integrate and co-exist with everyone else.
So which one do new Australians adopt?
I dont know how many of you have been to the western suburbs lately, but walking around the streets you see groups of "imigrants" in thier gangs out causing trouble a ****load more than you see groups of aussie bogans out attacking people.
Between the fully sik leb's and the african gangbanger homies most of the streets aren't safe to walk through at night anymore, THESE are people who do not integrate into our society, they refuse to accept our laws and our ways of life and what happens when they get caught?
The Police, The Government and everybody else gets accused of being racist by all the doo-gooder hippies who run to ACA and twist it into our Fault.
Love it or Leave it, dont like it fine, take the centrelink benefits off them and give them a plane ticket home, I'd rather my tax dollars went to buying plane tickets out than paying for housing they destroy.
Flame Away, im sure you will.
And yes i did go through school with the bullshit "skippy" slang all the time and if we retaliate? We're the criminals because thier a different race.
I could go through the things I dislike about immigrants/religion all day, but I won't.
Since Cronulla, youths/adults alike are going through a transformation.You get to a certain point where you just will not tolerate the lawlessness of different races.
Sure we have our own lawlessness, but not on the scale of what we are seeing from these immigrants.
Just this morning two Asians were stabbed to death.We have security guards and ATM's being fleeced of their money and guns by ethnic gangs (the dole does'nt pay enough) and the guns themselves go into armed robbery and illegal trade.
Poor hygiene, health, disease and language barriers are problems just to name a few.
Put it this way, Australia day is going to get alot more interesting as the years roll on.
I'm allways suprised how racist and short sighted people are on this forum. It takes time for people from other countrys to adjust to our lifestyle, it might take a full generation so what?. You should be proud to be in a country that has good enough morals to give troubled people a place to live despite the short term problems that brings. Treat anyone with respect and sooner or later they will become just like the example you set them. Show them hate and you'll get it straight back especailly if they still have some built up from the troubled life they just came from.
I was at school when all the vietnamese kids arrived and most of them were complete psycho cases, one in my class had a bullet graze scar right across his face and he wasn't a happy fellow at all, he'd allways be beating me up. But a few years later they all gew up and were as nice as you could want
Foam, i appreciate it takes time for people to fit in, but in the meantime should we be allowing them to traffic in drugs, illegal firearms, allow them to commit robberies, car heists etc? Should we allow them to mock white Australians for being Aussies? Shoiuld we allow them all these things? This is on the increase year after year after year. I wish i coudl find that damned report written in 1993 by a high ranking NSW Inspector about predicting this would happen. Just because you do not fit in, does not mean you have to commit many crimes. Many of you who are against what some are saying have clearly never lived in certain parts of NSW.
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Craig I live basically in the heart of little Istanbul, lol. All I am saying is that they are not doing anything that Aussies either don't do themselves or have done.
For every one article you read about a gang of immigrants the bashed and robbed someone do you get another of the same family that came with nothing and through sheer hard work have made something of themselves?
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Ok yes Australias can do some bad things to, we all get that, but that is Australians doing wrong in Australia...it's not herds of Aussies going to another country to live and continue to do there nasty deeds there...which is what is happening here in Australia with certin groups of immigrants/refugees/ethnics whatever the **** is the right term for them...
Also why i believe there should be a dirty big vigilanty group setup in every capital for those who are sick of the shit these people are doing to Australia. Flame me for that thought, but im not the only one thinking it.
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i agree 100%, i wasn't going to post in this thread because of how they usually turn out (from all the other threads) but its good to see a bunch of people from the 1st page to now agree with what i think......
And why has this turned from a thread about drunken aussie idiots making the good one's look bad into a thread about people from other countries? Cant people hack it that a bunch of aussie's ****ed up this time? so they need to change the subject back to the usual bullshit we read in the newspaper daily?
If people are wondering why they never see so many stories about aussie's stuffing up its because the media isn't writing stories about the shit they do, and why? BECAUSE it doesn't sell, thats why and if it did you would see alot more articles about bogans bashing there wife etc etc etc etc.
Actually pretty much all my mates will happily admit they are aussie, they know what their backgrounds are but see it as "i was born here, so im aussie"....
LMAO shutup dan you skippy pooofter lol... jkz
Do you remember all the punch on's the africans used to start back in the day? LOL did the cops hate them (still do from all the convo's with the boys in blue)
What about the ones who weren't born here, but emmigrated from their homeland to here, as most of this discussion has been about?
^^^ Spot on. Minux for PM.
The problem here is that in the name of political correctness, they are being given the right to do things that others are not. The whole public outcry because they would be asked to remove their head-scarves in shops (For a perfectly good reason, mind you) proves that because of their beliefs (In what should be a secular country, ideally) they are expecting different standards, and people are allowing it. They are not assimilating; they are changing our laws and customs to suit them, rather than changing themselves to suit our laws and customs.
Personally I think the whole 'aussie culture' thing is a bit vague too. However; any culture from an immigrant that defies Australias laws, should not be welcomed into the country, for a start. When an immigrants culture included different treatment of women or something along those lines, and it defies our laws, that culture is not wanted. If they wish to follow the same standards as they are use to, then they can return to where those standards are acceptable, and not try to move those standards into Australia.
Well they are australian citizens and SHOULD count themselves as "aussies" but if they dont then wtf can we do? no point us crying that they wont say that there aussie and convert to our ways...
And your right most of the discussion has been about this subject as most threads when someone brings it up, even though the OP was about a bunch of aussie's making idiots of themselves.....
Question is, the one's being idiots and getting drunk and making the rest of us look like idiots, what do we do to them? instead of talking about how arabs/europeans/asian/indians (insert the rest here) are somehow less entitled to live here then others because they have a different view??
Answe is, nothing... we cant do shit....
Its not muslim people's fault that they have beliefs bla bla bla (you know what im going to say), if you want to blame anybody blame the pussies that make the laws for Australia and being such a push over.....The problem here is that in the name of political correctness, they are being given the right to do things that others are not. The whole public outcry because they would be asked to remove their head-scarves in shops (For a perfectly good reason, mind you) proves that because of their beliefs (In what should be a secular country, ideally) they are expecting different standards, and people are allowing it. They are not assimilating; they are changing our laws and customs to suit them, rather than changing themselves to suit our laws and customs.
People mentioned if we took our beliefs to there country we would be hanged, you know why? because there not pushover little pussies like our government is... So don't blame them, blame the government or whoever else passes these rulesgrow some balls and say no, simple
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Good and bad comes with every race and religion. I've lived with Aussies who I'd like to take a gun to, and I've lived with Muslims who pray three times a day and wear silly clothes, but who I'd go to any lengths to help out.
At the end of the day though, someone has to have the balls to show some respect first - or there'll never be a solution. I see Australians having a go at foreigners every day, and until that stops, how can we expect them to learn respect for us?
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pretty much what i have tried to say during other threads..
alot of aussies are disrespectful towards anyone with a tan, and they want forigners to be like us?
Why the hell would you want to be like the people that treat you like crap? lol
Im pretty much nice to everyone until they **** me off, and i get respect back... All people need to remember is "treat people how you would like to be treated"
Pretty much spot on, you reape what you sew.
If we want Immigrants to intergrate, we have to:
A: Show them some respect to begin with.
B: Give them ground rules and then stand our ground.
This is not to say they should live as we live.
But as was mentioned prior, they do need to lose the conflicting aspects of their own cultures before they'll ever be able to intergrate.
It's give and take, it all ways will be.
So many people on this forum, and in society as a whole that judge a group of people based on what they see on T.V (C'mon how seriously dim must you be to beleive ANYTHING on the news these day's?)