Crash Stats

[jester419]

Hey Guys/Gals,

I was having a (heated) debated with my parents over a V8 conversion and there point was that a 5L was more dangerous and that more ppl die in them and all that who-ha I kindly reminded them that if you hit a tree at 120 in a V6 u have the same chance as hittin it at 120 in a V8

So I was thinking does anyone no where there are any stats on what percentage of crashes are V8's and V6's?

cheers in advance!

[88GreenVN]

Impact speed always counts. 4 banger will still go splat at 120.

[minux]

On younger groups, most fatalities were in modified vehicles, that is all that is said, which is why there are so many restrictions on what can and cant be driven.

While its good to say damage at 1 speed will do the same in any car, its how quickly it gets to that speed which is the danger.

[Calaber]

Jester

Even if such stats existed, they won't help your case. The number of V6's on the road compared to V8's would mean that many more collisions occur involving V6's. You would have to be able to show the percentage of 6's on the road involved in prangs, compared to the number of 8's on the road involved in prangs, for the comparision to have much value.

[SAV_117]

how old are u have u thought of insurance and stuff i wanted a WH V8 but couldnt justify spending that much on insurance so when im 25 ill get a V8

[jester419]

Impact speed always counts. 4 banger will still go splat at 120.

didnt knw they could make 120

On younger groups, most fatalities were in modified vehicles, that is all that is said, which is why there are so many restrictions on what can and cant be driven.

While its good to say damage at 1 speed will do the same in any car, its how quickly it gets to that speed which is the danger.

you do make a good point...although it wasn't for the right team lol
lucky for me there arent any restricitons (that i know of or will follow)

Jester

Even if such stats existed, they won't help your case. The number of V6's on the road compared to V8's would mean that many more collisions occur involving V6's. You would have to be able to show the percentage of 6's on the road involved in prangs, compared to the number of 8's on the road involved in prangs, for the comparision to have much value.

yeh thats wat i was trying to get cause they would have brought up that point

[sv9946]

as for a four banger doing 120 clicks, you make me laugh.

i was in a current model camry one night at over 200km/h (not illegal, on private road) and also i drove a rodeo diesel (VCDI motor) 4WD ute there the other week and hit 200km/h.

if i can guarantee you one thing, i'd certainly prefer to be doing 200km/h in a decent commodore than in a rodeo. ffs this 4wd ute didn't even have 4 wheel disc brakes. or even more scary is the camry, front wheel drive. imagine a blowout at those speeds in fwd car.

[STEALTHY™]

how old are u have u thought of insurance and stuff i wanted a WH V8 but couldnt justify spending that much on insurance so when im 25 ill get a V8

Insurance depends on your driving record.

Having 3 years clean driving record with the same insurer, they were more than happy to give me a decent price for a V8. Even with just cars it was down to 1200 with mods

[jester419]

wat kinda insurance u have Stealthy?

[STEALTHY™]

wat kinda insurance u have Stealthy?

In what regard?

[jester419]

comprehensive or 3rd party or 3rd party theft fire

[andyman]

as for a four banger doing 120 clicks, you make me laugh.

i was in a current model camry one night at over 200km/h (not illegal, on private road) and also i drove a rodeo diesel (VCDI motor) 4WD ute there the other week and hit 200km/h.

if i can guarantee you one thing, i'd certainly prefer to be doing 200km/h in a decent commodore than in a rodeo. ffs this 4wd ute didn't even have 4 wheel disc brakes. or even more scary is the camry, front wheel drive. imagine a blowout at those speeds in fwd car.

lol, those current rodeo/colorados, with the 4jj diesel engine are scary on wet roads with the stock tyres, (2wd) we have one as our work ute, they got real well, especially when you hit 2nd gear, they launch

[levymetal]

i'd say it's 100% driver mentality based... a good sensible driver wouldn't be at any more risk of crashing if they drove a v8... but remember generally speaking this is the majority of the population, these are the people that DON'T drive v8s! even if you got the % of v6 crashes and % of v8 crashes, it's still biased because you'd have more fully sick **** hoon ********s driving v8s who of course have a higher chance of crashing any car. hopefully by restricting them that they will learn how to control a vehicle a little bit better before they get into a v8.

[STEALTHY™]

comprehensive or 3rd party or 3rd party theft fire

When i first got my lcense, i had my VL insured with RAA 3rd party fire and theft.

After 3 years (well, 3.5) with them, i then got my V8, and had full comp!
I only changed insures because RAA wouldn't allow any mods.

[cxcxcxvcvcvc]

its how quickly it gets to that speed which is the danger.

And therin lies the rub!
while the stock v8 is not that much more powerfull than the stock V6 , it will still get up to speed faster stock 4 stock! The difference is when you find yourself in trouble it might be those few seconds slower in the V6 that could save your life! But im not one 2 judge, and im not implying in anyway that you couldnt control/handle a V8 as i dont know you personally, but either way mate parents will be parents, they just love ya and want to know you will be ok and its their right to be concerned/lecture

[STEALTHY™]

Also thought i should mention, i bought my V8 against the advice of my parents.

My Dad came with me when i test drove my car, and said 'its a nice car, shame your not getting a V8'. Little did he know i was!

6 Years later, the car still hasn't been crashed.

[greenfoam]

Having never had a stack and being old I can get full insurance for a modifed 5 litre from Shannons for $350 , I'd never own a car that cost more than 500 to insure, that's just madness. Having had both a V6 and a 5 litre there's no difference in the crashability of the cars unles you are being silly in the rain, then you would be more likely to crash in the 5 litre of course

[02DUBH]

my insurance for the wh international 5.7L is only 760 full comprehensive, i dont understand why people say insurance is so much more on a V8 if your a younger driver. as my vp cost around the 600 mark

[dijm8]

who are you with 02DUBH ? im payin about 1200 with all mods on the list

[02DUBH]

allianz, and i dont have a very impressive driving record either.

[02DUBH]

hang on, the insurance is also in my mums name aswel. i just went over my insurance details.

[CANYONERO]

Most insurers wouldnt go near me seeing i was under 25, even with a completely clean driving record. or if they did there were going to rape me with there prices.

my parents also were against me getting a V8, so i went down and got a few R1 and CBR1000 brochures with quotes and left them strategically around the house. funnily enough they thought 4 airbags, abs, a seatbelt in a metal cage were better than a just a helmet i wanted a V8 when i was 18 and they said no so i agreed reluctantly but i said my next one would be, so they had 3 years of warning....

[Zeussy]

Haha, more likely to crash in a V8 - pffft..

Its how far you push the pedal down that makes it go faster...

Just this afternoon at around 6pm-ish.. heard these young D***H***s racing up and over the hill... then an almighty Screeeeeeeeeeecccchhh!! then little bang.. then HUGE bang.. haha

I go out the front - only to see a VS V6 commodore sitting in my neighbours driveway/garage.... almost backwards.. took out the double garage and the whole side of the house.. said he was doing 50km/hr and fell asleep! more like 150km/hr..

Any way back on topic.. V8's aren't the only thing that will make you go 'fast' its the driver controling the V8.. If you're sensible and know how to drive, you will never have a problem, but if you're like half the other young kids out there - that want a V8 to go 'fast' and 'think' they know how to drive.. its only going to be a matter of time before you come un-stuck.. and probly hurt yourself and others..

Having said that.. any young 'race car driver' in any car can do similar if not the same damage so the size of the motor is almost irrelevant

[commsirac]

Hey Guys/Gals,

I was having a (heated) debated with my parents over a V8 conversion and there point was that a 5L was more dangerous and that more ppl die in them and all that who-ha I kindly reminded them that if you hit a tree at 120 in a V6 u have the same chance as hittin it at 120 in a V8

So I was thinking does anyone no where there are any stats on what percentage of crashes are V8's and V6's?

cheers in advance!

Insurance premiums give you the answer, do you think they charge more for v8s just on a whim? Of course they are not more dangerous, its just that the people that choose to drive them have more accidents.

[Julie]

You also need to consider being v8s they are going to be a more desirable target than v6 crap boxes for thieves and that would heavily impact on insurance premiums.