VE LE Calais - 6.7 litres!?!?!?

[Shortstuff]

No, I've seen the car, it IS a VE Calais Limited Edition. And it's def V6.

But what is the alloytec as in, L67 L98 and all that.....

Code for the Alloytec is LY7 (high output) or LE0 (reduced output).

[andyman]

Alloytec is the new standard V6 engine. Came out in the last of the VY's or just from the VZ's onwards.

They are like the Buick 3.8's, the Ecotec's etc. It went Buick V6, Ecotec V6 and now, Alloytec V6. Just a standard V6 now in Holden's.

alloytecs came out in the vz's, tisk tisk tisk.......

BOLD writing, i know im twisting your words, but to not confuse people, the alloytec is a completly different design to the old motors, but yes, they are the new generation global engine

ummm, i dont think it was coded, the L-codes are all chev engine codes. The Alloytec is an Au make, so i dont think it gets one

LE0 for base and LY7 for high output

[Cursed CX8]

andyman, there was a VY Adventra which included the alloytec, haha

[soop]

I lol'd.

This right up there with cop chips and supercharged VN interceptors.

[Cobez]

alloytecs came out in the vz's, tisk tisk tisk.......

BOLD writing, i know im twisting your words, but to not confuse people, the alloytec is a completly different design to the old motors, but yes, they are the new generation global engine

Yah, but i meant they are now a standard part of the Commodore range as were the Buicks and Ecotec engines were. If you buy a V6 Commodore nowadays, you get an alloytec. As in i meant they aren't a limited edition or special edition engine or anything. They are now your everyday V6 if you purchase a VZ+ Commodore.

[andyman]

andyman, there was a VY Adventra which included the alloytec, haha

umm, do you want to rethink that???? VY Adventras where V8 ONLY, they went to V6 when the VZ Adventras were released

Yah, but i meant they are now a standard part of the Commodore range as were the Buicks and Ecotec engines were. If you buy a V6 Commodore nowadays, you get an alloytec. As in i meant they aren't a limited edition or special edition engine or anything. They are now your everyday V6 if you purchase a VZ+ Commodore.

yeah i knew what you meant, but people read things the wrong way, i know that many people that say the alloytec is just a revised ecotec rar rar rar... thats what they say until i set them straight, its time to educate lol...

[Jo3_Blo]

I lol'd.

This right up there with cop chips and supercharged VN interceptors.

LOL, it would seem so!

[naf33n]

andyman, there was a VY Adventra which included the alloytec, haha

mate i think you should sit this one out, no vy came with the alloytec

and minux is right about the forced induction /capacity thing, all supercharged and turbo motors have an increased capacity, its by some percentage that they work it out. just purely to make the racing classes more even.

[burnz]

mate i think you should sit this one out, no vy came with the alloytec

and minux is right about the forced induction /capacity thing, all supercharged and turbo motors have an increased capacity, its by some percentage that they work it out. just purely to make the racing classes more even.

yes but holden don't rate the capacity on volumetric effeicent only cubic centremeters

[Reaper]

So if capacity is ONLY determined by bore and stroke why is the Xr6T banned in many racing classes for exceeding the 6.0 litre capacity?

C'mon - you know very well that capacity is a function of bore and stroke. When racing catagories add modifiers to FI and rotary motors to equal out the field. A turbo, supercharger or even your mother's hair dryer does not change the capacity of a engine.

Reaper

[Cursed CX8]

mate i think you should sit this one out, no vy came with the alloytec

and minux is right about the forced induction /capacity thing, all supercharged and turbo motors have an increased capacity, its by some percentage that they work it out. just purely to make the racing classes more even.

just looked at the vy stuff, i will apolergise as i thought the VY-3 Adventra came with the Alloytec. I was wrong. I know none of the base VY's did, but i thought the adventra did. Anywho - im sticking to what i said about the forced induction capacity things. Just like i said, if i bolt a 3.3lt charger to the top of my alloytec im not going to get a 6.9lt v6 am i? NO, its going to be a forced 3.6.

[soop]

Exactly.
This thread reeks of FAIL.

Displacement is measured by bore + stroke.
Forced induction increases the volumetric efficiency.

Which simply means less displacement will produce power more efficiently. It won't some how magically make the engine bigger.

Not a hard concept to grasp people!

[minux]

Exactly.
This thread reeks of FAIL.

Displacement is measured by bore + stroke.
Forced induction increases the volumetric efficiency.

Which simply means less displacement will produce power more efficiently. It won't some how magically make the engine bigger.

Not a hard concept to grasp people!

What I should have said is

If he has supercharged it then it could very well have a 6.7 litre(equivalent) capacity due to the blower. Much like the falcon XR6T is a 6.7 litre equivalent capacity(possibly 6.8?)

I just figured most people would have understood what I was saying. Clearly not.

[calais_304]

I just figured most people would have understood what I was saying. Clearly not.

lmao minux you've been on here long enough to know that doesn't happen :P

[burnz]

we all know what you said minux, we just like to bitch and whing on what you didn't say.

[soop]

I'm not a flippin clarevoyant. And I don't know Minux well enough to assume he has a clue .

Although, how does one quote the equivilant displacement?
It would be all relevant depending on which turbo charger/supercharger was used as to what it could be. And then it could also be effected by the boost pressure.

IMO its a really poor way to measure something.

[naf33n]

if i bolt a 3.3lt charger to the top of my alloytec im not going to get a 6.9lt v6 am i? NO, its going to be a forced 3.6.

but your car wont be considered in the under 4 litre class, you will be in comparison with 6 litre and the like...

[buzuki]

man you guys are changing the subject, going from displacement vs a frickin racing catorgory.

The displacement is still a 3.6L.

In circuit/club/hill climb racing yes the car will be put into a larger class, the use the engines capacity times 1.6 . roughly. which in RACING ONLY would put the 3.6 BLOWN engine at roughly 5.8 litres.

agree with soop

FAIL THREAD