Prominent Muslim figure charged with murder

[Stressball]

Prominent Orchard Park man charged with beheading his wife : Don't Miss : The Buffalo News

The guy has obviously put his foot right in it when it comes to his intentions of portraying muslims in a good light, but what is not clear is whether the beheading was inspired by religion, or purely by other emotions? Either way, he's messed up big time, and now a woman is dead because of it.

Opinions, observations?

[Morton]

If he was a christian, he'd be a gun-toting conservative from the mid-west. It's people like him who give their own kind a bad name.

[Siliconslick]

My shitstorm detecting device is going off bigtime now...

[Squires]

Just noting that the victim previously had a protection order on him, I'm leaning more toward personal emotions as the dominant factor.

They (Muslims) have enough trouble as it is trying to keep their name (as a community) clean.

Notice how it mostlys seems to be prominent figures? I'm willing to bet the 'links to terrorist' card gets played.

[Stressball]

Notice how it mostlys seems to be prominent figures?

Well, yeah... That could be because they are prominent... The only reason a non-prominent member of their community would be in the public eye would be if it were something rather spectacular... Or just because the media wants a story, either way. They are a representation of the community, as they are the ones in the spotlight. This guy would have been in the public eye more then most Muslims, even if he had not gone and butchered his wife.

Just noting that the victim previously had a protection order on him, I'm leaning more toward personal emotions as the dominant factor.

This is true, however, if it were purely emotional, what is the likelihood of her murder being done by beheading? Surely a rage-induced murder would be more fit to be carried out with something simple, suddenly and with no need to think? Perhaps via stabbing, shooting, or strangulation. Beheading implies that it was thought through, as it takes more than 2 seconds to remove someones head.

[Bax]

Beheading implies that it was thought through, as it takes more than 2 seconds to remove someones head.

Doesn't necessarily mean that it was pre-meditated. It does seem like a very rage filled effort, a lot of hate coming out there, but there's nothing saying that can't be emotional as well.

I'm not taking too much from it, the fact that he's Muslim, doesn't really make a difference as far as I can see. But yes, definitely a set back for his religion, considering he's trying to put it in a positive light.

[Stressball]

Doesn't necessarily mean that it was pre-meditated. It does seem like a very rage filled effort, a lot of hate coming out there, but there's nothing saying that can't be emotional as well.

You are correct, it could be extremely emotional, but if it were not pre-meditated then it would have been a snap decision, yes? And in a violent frenzy like that, surely your impulses would not tell you to take time to kill this person and mutilate them, but instead to dispatch of them in a sudden burst of rage.

Of course, different people react differently to different stimuli, so maybe this guy just reacted the way he did as a sudden outbreak. Maybe he will explain what happened one day.

[Cobez]

Rot in jail you maggot lol. Great news!!

[jules]

on the one hand, ordinary (christian?) americans murder their wives almost every day, or more, and no one pays much attention.

on the other hand, you're only going to draw attention to yourself if you own a tv station and if you behead the person

[Stressball]

on the one hand, ordinary (christian?) americans murder their wives almost every day, or more, and no one pays much attention.

on the other hand, you're only going to draw attention to yourself if you own a tv station and if you behead the person

Being a public figure will draw attention to it, yes.

As for other religions and their murderers, the difference is that beheading is no longer just a form of capital punishment, it is usually associated with religion. Countries which operate under Sharia law use this as their form of capital punishment quite often, whereas non-muslim countries usually carry out the execution via lethal injection or hanging, if they do it at all.

Basically the reason this leans very much against him is not only did he kill his wife who wanted a divorce, he killed her in such a way that will immediately incite thoughts of it being a religious killing rather than a normal rage-invoked frenzy. That's one reason why the non-muslim, caucasian wife-killers don't get so much press; there's nothing to insinuate that it was anything to do with religion.


Ultimately we all know deep down that religion will be the death of the human race, but at least people can feel justified when it happens

[jules]

i think it's fair to suspect it was an islamic honour killing. i wouldn't consider that it makes him better or worse, he's still a murderer like all the other ones.

but there is some irony that he dedicated his working life to dispelling stereotypes about muslims..