Ford question

[tanner892]

Ok I have a mate who is trying to convince me that his stock ED XR6 will beat a stock ED XR8, his ED XR6 is 161kw, the xr8s r 165kw

xr6
161kw at 4600rpm
365nm at 3650rpm

xr8
165kw at 4500rpm
388Nm at 3000rpm

so the xr8 produces more/equal power at less rpm, so how can an xr6 possibly be faster

HOWEVER his arguement is the fact that the xr6 is 50kg lighter..

are theyre any other factors at play here, im really struggling to understand? any thoughts PLEASE

[minux]

The XR6 is quicker than the XR8, was the case for years. The ED Falcon 6 is a damned machine when turboed...Wayne Dyson did one back in around 95...what a weapon.

[tanner892]

riiighttt, so why would they even make a v8, doesnt make sense to me

[randomhero365]

ssh, they dont know that

[tanner892]

yeh i think hed own ur vp v6:P

[walesy]

do they have the same diff gear ratio? that would play a big part too

[tanner892]

yeah i was thinking that, his got 3.46s i think it is, dunno wat the xr8 is though

[Full Spectrum]

riiighttt, so why would they even make a v8, doesnt make sense to me

Bit like what Ford has done now with the Turbo 6 and Boss V8. Why do they bother with the V8 when the Turbo 6 kills it. V8 heavier slower sounds mint, But goes pretty slow.

[CANYONERO]

i have seen a EF XR6 manual in stock form apart from cat back kill mild holden 5lts, i mean kill. it was an absolute weapon, and a freak. The only XR8 of the same era that beat him was one with NOS. even then it wasnt convincing.

[SAV_117]

turbo the 8

[CANYONERO]

turbo the 6, as minux said, they are weapons when you add a snail, the I^ respond unbelieveably well to forced induction. if i went back to a 6, i wouldnt look any further than a XR6T.

[shyun]

do they have the same diff gear ratio? that would play a big part too

Well the xr6 has 3.45 and 3.23 1st gear and the xr8 i think has 3.27 and 2.95 first gear.

[tanner892]

turbo the 6, as minux said, they are weapons when you add a snail, the I^ respond unbelieveably well to forced induction. if i went back to a 6, i wouldnt look any further than a XR6T.

yeah well i would too if it wasnt for license restrictions :P

[Morton]

i have seen a EF XR6 manual in stock form apart from cat back kill mild holden 5lts, i mean kill. it was an absolute weapon, and a freak. The only XR8 of the same era that beat him was one with NOS. even then it wasnt convincing.

But the EF (or any EA - EL) XR6 had to be manual It was essential. The first gear ratios on those auto slushboxes destroyed any off-the-line performance those cars had.

And yes OP, the XR6 will maul the XR8. Ford 8s have never been particularly potent, and that remains the case today for the most part.

[randomhero365]

yeh i think hed own ur vp v6:P

not in my dreams

[greenfoam]

The only good early XR8's are the later AUs which got muuuch better heads and manifold and a heap more power. The early NA XR6's go good, beat a 5 litre..... it would want to be a shiiiiiiit 5 litre but they do allright in manual form (lowish 15's on the 1/4 mile) no chance at a 14 tho and a healthy 5 liter exec even an auto will run high 14's 100% stock

[MagiTEK]

i had a au xr6 for a while.. and i will admit.. it kicks my present vy s pack ass off the line. lsd as standard probably helps.. but the au just had more get up and go.... mind you i swear the au xr6 was heaps better performance wise then the ba xr6. which i think suffered from the same weight problems as the vy does.

[Garth]

ive got the fg xr6t sedan, the thing is a monster, you press go and bingo power, it's there, it's fast it's happening, just wish there were places i could play with it properly, can only handle so much of the drags.

[Maci]

The only good early XR8's are the later AUs which got muuuch better heads and manifold and a heap more power.

excluding the fact the AU series 1 nearly killed ford......... Give me a pre AU falcon xr6/xr8 anyday...Got an EA XR8 sitting at home in the back shed, just waiting for my p plater restriction to release, gotta get older

[clubsport_replica]

Got an EA XR8 sitting at home in the back shed, just waiting for my p plater restriction to release, gotta get older

was no EA XR8's made were no ea v8's full stop so id say you have an EB S XR8

[calais_304]

was no EA XR8's made were no ea v8's full stop so id say you have an EB S XR8

what the man says is true! you got an EB dude, i used to have an EB fairmont that i converted to manual...as an auto it was shocking!! but when i put a 5spd in it, it went hard! had all the usuall mods (exhaust, CAI, lowered, mags etc...)

god that was a good thrash about car!

[greenfoam]

i had a au xr6 for a while.. and i will admit.. it kicks my present vy s pack ass off the line. lsd as standard probably helps.. but the au just had more get up and go.... mind you i swear the au xr6 was heaps better performance wise then the ba xr6. which i think suffered from the same weight problems as the vy does.

My parents had a AU and a BF at the same time, for my money the AU was faster and generally felt better. Mostly because it's a fair bit lighter I think. It's a good AU but I still got beat by a AU XR6 giving them a little squirt one day it made me a bit grumpy that I wasn't in my car

[wildss]

the 6's just rev out quicker thats why theyr faster..
i had an efxr6 which was bog stock and it kept up with a vs ss with exhaust no probs

[VNexecutive]

yeah i agree that xr6 manuals are machines. xr8's in manual form go well aswell.
mates el manual fairmont v8 (converted to manual) with decent exhaust system and uprgraded diff ratio's will keep up with ls1's if not beat them.

[Ado]

Similar story here,i knew two mates that purchased VS s utes(brand new),one V8 man and the other V6 man.They couldnt seperate them.Not sure how fast they took them but they were very close.