New Alcohol Tax

[TVR-190]

On the news tonight they were talking about increasing the alcopop tax as well as maaking it affect all alcohol, 1 point they mentioned was introducing a scheme where the drinks with a higher alcohol concentrate cost more, so you pay more for a full strength beer than a light beer.

opinions?

bad news for you Zuicider

[oOSparkyOo]

wooooo knowing this lets go on a binge

[stocky]

yeah.....this was a year ago. everyone knows how much of a failure this idea was. check the date of the article

[TVR-190]

haha my bad,m wrong article, they are bringing in new laws/ taxes, just announced on the news tonight, but they want to tax depending how strong the drink is, and it wont be just alcopops it will be all alcohol.

so you would have to pay more for full strength beer atc

[danja]

They should just ban alcopops altogether. They're just a way drink into people who normally can't hold their drink anyway. Nothing that could go wrong there!

"If it tastes better with Coke, just drink the Coke."

[Rufus®]

Health groups praise alcohol tax hike | The Australian

bad news for you Zuicider

So did Fielding finally fold and they manage to pass this crap tax?

haha my bad,m wrong article, they are bringing in new laws/ taxes, just announced on the news tonight, but they want to tax depending how strong the drink is, and it wont be just alcopops it will be all alcohol.

so you would have to pay more for full strength beer atc

Thank god I'm going back to brewing my own!!

[Tom_1569]

Didnt they just announce that the original alcopop tax failed? So lets jack it up even more, clearly the public is not in the best interest of the goverment, just another way to collect taxes.
There are already laws in place to stop these problems, THEY ARE NOT ENFORCED. Maybe the goverment should have a crack down and enforce the laws in place such as: Not being allowed to supply liqour to a minor, Not being allowed to suppy liquor to an intoxicated person. Simple enfore those two to begin with, it will cut down on people buying alcohol for underages or selling it to them. And if they are so worried about people getting drunk, then enforce the law of not supplying liquour to an intoxicated person, can it be anymore black and white?

[VL_5SPEED]

Another reason why there has been a huge increase in drug use mainly ecstasy!

[nicko]

big deal. People drink WAY to much alcohol these days. Myself included. Simple way to stop people from consuming is to increase the tax on it, and it worked with alco pop sales going down. Spirit sales have gone up but thats not what the tax was supposed to do, it was designed to reduce the alco pop sales.

Yes people can still just buy a bottle and some coke and get just as smashed but thats another story and another tax to combat this.

Stop your complaining.

[stocky]

There are already laws in place to stop these problems, THEY ARE NOT ENFORCED. Maybe the goverment should have a crack down and enforce the laws in place such as: Not being allowed to supply liqour to a minor, Not being allowed to suppy liquor to an intoxicated person. Simple enfore those two to begin with, it will cut down on people buying alcohol for underages or selling it to them. And if they are so worried about people getting drunk, then enforce the law of not supplying liquour to an intoxicated person, can it be anymore black and white?

they are enforced. anyone with an RSA knows what will happen if they supply alcohol to a minor. its a huge fine for everyone involved. if i have the slightest suspicion an adult is trying to buy for their kids, i keep an eye on it and stop them as soon as i have proof. anyone underage is asked for ID immediately

[stocky]

big deal. People drink WAY to much alcohol these days. Myself included. Simple way to stop people from consuming is to increase the tax on it, and it worked with alco pop sales going down. Spirit sales have gone up but thats not what the tax was supposed to do, it was designed to reduce the alco pop sales.

Yes people can still just buy a bottle and some coke and get just as smashed but thats another story and another tax to combat this.

Stop your complaining.

so someone that just wants a drink after work is forced to pay double just because a bunch of morons like to get smashed and cause trouble every weekend?

[Astranomical]

If they're so against alcohol, why don't they just ban it?

Oh wait....then they wouldn't be able to tax it, and make money off it, nevermind....

[VL_5SPEED]

Simple way to stop people from consuming is to increase the tax on it

That didnt work with the tax on durrys. Increasing tax isnt going to do anything except leave people poorer and governments richer. Most people will see it as buying a 6 pack of beer for $20 or buy a pill for $15...

[nicko]

Thats because the tax isnt enough. Add $20 tax to a packet and some people would have to quit.

[stocky]

That didnt work with the tax on durrys. Increasing tax isnt going to do anything except leave people poorer and governments richer. Most people will see it as buying a 6 pack of beer for $20 or buy a pill for $15...

except most people dont do drugs

[VL_5SPEED]

except most people dont do drugs

Cobez your old and your party days are over. Look around at todays generation. Most 13 to early 20 years olds are using ecstasy. I dont know anyone who deals weed but know 3 people who live in a 5 km radias from me who deal pills.

[nicko]

so what your saying is you live in a shit area lol

[Troy5L]

its still not goin 2 stop people drinkin, i no it wont stop me...the government is just money hungry, its an epic failure this tax grab. and the farkn greens want to ban adverts during footy games and watnot...i farkn hate politics

[nicko]

its still not goin 2 stop people drinkin, i no it wont stop me...the government is just money hungry, its an epic failure this tax grab. and the farkn greens want to ban adverts during footy games and watnot...i farkn hate politics

Its not designed to stop ALL drinking, Just the alco pops which are common in underage drinkers.

[stocky]

Cobez your old and your party days are over. Look around at todays generation. Most 13 to early 20 years olds are using ecstasy. I dont know anyone who deals weed but know 3 people who live in a 5 km radias from me who deal pills.

my names not cobez. dont do drugs and you wont mess up like that. most 13-20 year olds shouldnt be drinking anyway so your argument sucks. only the 18-20 year olds can legally buy alcohol. not my problem if you live in a shit drug infested area, and i couldnt give a shit about "todays generation". you said most people, so that means everyone regardless of age, and i doubt the majority of people over the age of 20 bother with drugs. sure there are groups of older people that will waste their lives at clubs doing drugs, but its hardly a majority of the entire population. theres thing thing called maturity that people discover in their later years

[TVR-190]

Its not designed to stop ALL drinking, Just the alco pops which are common in underage drinkers.

actually it is all drinking, might wanna re-read the first post

[Troy5L]

Cobez your old and your party days are over. Look around at todays generation. Most 13 to early 20 years olds are using ecstasy. I dont know anyone who deals weed but know 3 people who live in a 5 km radias from me who deal pills.

um thats not cobez...so u say most 13 to 20 year olds use ecstasy...me nore most of my mates have ever touchd it or any drug except alco...and some of them are still in that age group...so mayb u should get ur facts right first

[Troy5L]

actually it is all drinking, might wanna re-read the first post

its plaine and simple, they wont stop all drinkin

[VL_5SPEED]

my names not cobez. dont do drugs and you wont mess up like that. most 13-20 year olds shouldnt be drinking anyway so your argument sucks. only the 18-20 year olds can legally buy alcohol. not my problem if you live in a shit drug infested area, and i couldnt give a shit about "todays generation". you said most people, so that means everyone regardless of age, and i doubt the majority of people over the age of 20 bother with drugs. sure there are groups of older people that will waste their lives at clubs doing drugs, but its hardly a majority of the entire population. theres thing thing called maturity that people discover in their later years

Hehe my bad. Most 13 to 20 year olds shouldnt be drinking correct. But they are and nothing will change that.

I live at Lake Macquarie/Newcastle. And its far from a shit area.

[Tom_1569]

they are enforced. anyone with an RSA knows what will happen if they supply alcohol to a minor. its a huge fine for everyone involved. if i have the slightest suspicion an adult is trying to buy for their kids, i keep an eye on it and stop them as soon as i have proof. anyone underage is asked for ID immediately

Yes it is enforced but not enough. I've been asked for ID twice in my entire life, once when I was 15, took them 2 hours to check, he said he only checked caus his shift was nearly over, there is a reason why I was there, but either way I can justify me doing the wrong thing. The other time was a few days after turning 18, on my 3rd jug for the night, she decided to check my ID caus I laughed at someone else getting there ID checked. I see it enforced, but I still dont think it is enforced enough. People buying it for underages, older friends, siblings, I had mates who use to ask random people on the street, occasionly they would get turned down.

I got caught underage drinking, it was $51 fine, and they confiscated 1/2 a slab of the 6 slabs we had in our possession, it certainly didnt deter me, if anything made me more cocky caus I knew what was to come of it.

so someone that just wants a drink after work is forced to pay double just because a bunch of morons like to get smashed and cause trouble every weekend?

Agreed....

That didnt work with the tax on durrys. Increasing tax isnt going to do anything except leave people poorer and governments richer. Most people will see it as buying a 6 pack of beer for $20 or buy a pill for $15...

... and its those people who will buy the pill that are responsible for the alcopop tax, as they go out to get completly blind, as to appose to people who like to have a beer or two after a hard days work, I dont know anyone who comes home after a hard days work and decides to pop a few eccies to relax watching tv.