The Army

[VZ06]

Hey guys im 3/4 of the way in being accepted into the army.I have my assessment day on tuesday.Just wondering is anybody in the army and some advise for my assessment day.

[Zuicider]

hit up minux he is the leading army man here

[minux]

Been 12 years since I went, assessment was just basic english/maths style tests, wasn't really hard. I can't really say much as it was so long ago since I did it. Basically on the day I did mine, did pysch, medical etc also.

All I can say is, once your in, treat it as a lifestyle, not a career, you will enjoy it so much more.

Good Luck.

[VZ06]

Ow ok cool thanks,my formal interview is on the same day.I am applying Operator Ground Based Air Defence

[minux]

Ow ok cool thanks,my formal interview is on the same day.I am applying Operator Ground Based Air Defence

Ah Artillery, should be right, too far from the action though

Just don't stress, as I said, the tests were simple way back then and from my understanding everything has got alot easier.

[VZ06]

I surely hope so mate lol.What do you do in the army?What is your rank?

[minux]

I havent been in for a while now, I was infantry.

If you have any questions, I can do my best to answer them, but things have changed so much...just shoot me a pm.

[VZ06]

Ow ok cool.Do you have to be fit before you start at kapooka lol??

[minux]

Ow ok cool.Do you have to be fit before you start at kapooka lol??

Back when i was in...yes you had to be really fit, otherwise it was a massive shock. Those days are well gone now...no longer can you be hit and punished harshly like the days of old.

I would suggest working on running and upper body...oh also make sure you like swimming...the swimming circuits are a bitch especially dodging vomit lol.

[VZ06]

Thats so charming lol thanks alot.Did you serve over seas?

[Shounak]

Hey guys im 3/4 of the way in being accepted into the army.I have my assessment day on tuesday.Just wondering is anybody in the army and some advise for my assessment day.

Just got accepted as an ARA Officer. So I've been through all that stuff fairly recently.

As for you assessment day.
Know everything abot your role and corps. Seeing as you're going Arty, be able to talk in depth about all the equipment you'll be using. Basically memorise and be able to discuss everything on the DFR site. Know your role.

You'll have a psych. Exercise a bit of common sense and know 100% why you want to join and know about army life. They want to know that you'll fit in when living in close quarters in a macho alpha male environment. Speak to a current serving member, ring Simpsons Barracks or a Uni regiment for that.

Also, call your case manaer from an in depth phone interview. He'll give you the good oil.

Most importantly, don't let DFR Medical screw you around. Many applicants are lost in their bullshit, don't let it be you.

Good luck.

[minux]

Yeah, both on operation and on exercise.

Good advise from Shounak there

[Shounak]

Back when i was in...yes you had to be really fit, otherwise it was a massive shock. Those days are well gone now...no longer can you be hit and punished harshly like the days of old.

I would suggest working on running and upper body...oh also make sure you like swimming...the swimming circuits are a bitch especially dodging vomit lol.

Hahaha. I've talked to numerous people who've finished Pooks. Fitness is no longer a pre-requisite. A lot of people de-train by going there. A mate of mine (also in Arty at Woodside) lost fitness and muscle from ole Pookie.

One less thing I have to worry about going in as an O.

[VZ06]

Thanks for the advise.How many people will be in the interview room, is it just 1on1?

Any ideas on how to stop being nervous?Coz i am peeing myself just thinking about it lol?

[Shounak]

Thanks for the advise.How many people will be in the interview room, is it just 1on1?

Any ideas on how to stop being nervous?Coz i am peeing myself just thinking about it lol?

The interview will just be you. But be prepared to wait for long periods. Bring a book or iPod. You'll have possibly hours of waiting in between medical, psych etc.

I'm pretty sure for OR's the interviews are conducted by WO's (double check with DFR on that). If you know about ranks and ADF, you'll know that WO's are tough and love their ADF.

About not being nervous. Imagine you're a soldier in full uniform representing Australia. Stand tall, sit upright, speak confidently, look him in the eye, shake his hand firmly and don't umm, uhh at all. Be 100% certain of every answer you give.

Pause a second after each question and smash the answer.

Everything is recorded and these people are experts on reading people. So have confidence in your ability, you've only got about 30-45 minutes to demonstrate that you're the right man for the job.

I saw people get rejected on my assessment day because they were too unsure of themselves and the WO didn't think army would suit them. Just think, if you saw a video of yourself, would you give yourself the job?

I'd suggest having a chat to minux too. He knows his shit and will give it to you straight up, something which random people over the phone won't do.

[VZ06]

Ahh ok awsome.There is so many thoughts in my head about what they will and wont ask.Also on assessment day is there maths tests and that kinda stuff?

[Shounak]

Nothing at all. The aptitude test on your YOU day was where the maths ended.

DFR sent you a YOU sesion prep pack. That has a list of questions and that's all that will be asked. Call your case manager now and ask for a phone interview booking. The defence interview will only ask that.

They assume you'll know the answers to every question, it's a bare minimum. They look at YOU, not your answers.

The process is very easy for OR's. They'll just ask you the list of questions as listed on the sheet.

If the following is news to you. Send me a PM with your email address and I'll send it to you.

• Do I really want to be a soldier, sailor, airman or officer?
• Why do I want to be a soldier, sailor, airman or officer?
• Do I have the right academic qualifications and personal traits to be become a soldier, sailor, airman or officer?
• Do I know the role and can I cope with the responsibilities?
• Do I know the training process?
• How much do I know about military life in general?
• How will my lifestyle be affected by joining the Defence Force?
• Do I understand the enlistment/appointment conditions of service?
• What does my family or partner think about my application?
• Can I offer unrestricted service?
• The training required to qualify in your job, including basic/officer training and initial job training.
• The role and job description in detail and in your own words.
• The base location relevant to your job and the basic types of equipment you will be using.
• Understand why you want the role and that particular service.

As part of the selection process you will be required to undertake an interview with a Defence Interviewer. You should have an understanding of the following:

• Where and how long is your basic/officer training?
• What will you learn at basic/officer training and what will the training environment be like?
• Where and how long is your job training?
• What type of equipment might you use?
• How long will you enlist/appoint for?
• Where are the military bases that you may be posted to after training?
• What Corp (Army), Muster (Air Force), or Category (Navy) will you belong to?
• What are the main functions of the role you are applying for? How is the combat role related to this?
• What are the potential operating environments for your job role?
• What are the employment conditions for this job role – positive and negative.
• What are the pay entitlements for basic/officer/job training and once qualified?
• What is the ADF policy on non-medical use of drugs?
• A general understanding of what Service life is like.
• What leave entitlements will you have?
• What is the Pre Enlistment Fitness Assessment?

Please Note: The above questions are only a guide. It is the minimum standard of knowledge we expect you to have. It is in your best interest to study as much relevant information as possible to prepare for the interview. See pages 13 and 16 of this document for a list of useful web sites where you will be able to access this information.

[VZ06]

Yeah mate my caase manager already emailed me that.Ive been studying it all and also studying my job preference.She rung me the other day and we had an interview over the phone

[Shounak]

If you nailed that interview without having the info in front of you.

You'll do just fine.

Hopefully we'll be wearing the same uniform soon.

[VZ06]

I went reasonably well she told me.Where did you do your assessment day?Im doing mine in canberra, i live only an hour and 15mins from kapooka lol

[Shounak]

Melbourne.

Forget reasonably well. Look, cover, write, check if you have to. Applications have gone through the roof, if you get 5 guys before you who know the answers, who's going to get the job?

Like it says in the document, it's a minimum. Call Woodside and talk to someone there and get your answers 110%.

Send me a PM with anything else, this is turning into a chatroom now.

[spd_dmn]

My bro is at kapooka now, he marches out early June. I dunno much about the shit he went through to get there. He was goin for a run every morning too get his fitness up for about the 4mnths before hand, and he said the first week there they pushed him to the point of puking He passed his shooting exam this week too. I think he's going for infantry.

He was meant to go there for 3mnths then come home for 2 weeks before being shipped off to whereever. But when he got there they said he's being shipped off str8 after training, so we have to drive up there to see him before he leaves. Apparently there's a good chance he's goin to afghanistan.


Good luck with it anyhow mate, hope all goes well for ya.

[minux]

He was meant to go there for 3mnths then come home for 2 weeks before being shipped off to whereever. But when he got there they said he's being shipped off str8 after training, so we have to drive up there to see him before he leaves. Apparently there's a good chance he's goin to afghanistan.

If he is infantry he will then spend time at IET(Initial Employment Training) which is at School of Infantry, Singleton, this is another 3 months training. Then you get shipped off to your battalion where you will do all your typical induction stuff. Generally lids will not be sent straight over for combat roles until the battalion does further training.

[mcrow5]

As for you assessment day.
Know everything abot your role and corps. Seeing as you're going Arty, be able to talk in depth about all the equipment you'll be using. Basically memorise and be able to discuss everything on the DFR site. Know your role.

You'll have a psych. Exercise a bit of common sense and know 100% why you want to join and know about army life. They want to know that you'll fit in when living in close quarters in a macho alpha male environment. Speak to a current serving member, ring Simpsons Barracks or a Uni regiment for that.

Also, call your case manaer from an in depth phone interview. He'll give you the good oil.

Most importantly, don't let DFR Medical screw you around. Many applicants are lost in their bullshit, don't let it be you.

excellent advice here, i just went through my process for the navy. basically the same thing. but watch out for wierd questions. like "how will you cope if you have to kill someone?" and depending on how old you are "how will you cope with living away from home?".

now i just need to put on 8kg's damnit.

[Galixia]

i marched outta kapooka earlier this year... i have been a reservist since 2003, but changed to full time so had to do Kapooka again now compaired to when i went through in 2003 its way easy and pretty much the fitness level to pass the initial fitness test is all that is needed... i personally lost fitness being in there as they have limited the approach of fitness now... the PT there is now designed to teach proper techniques not to get you really fit...