Speed camera ENDANGERING LIVES on pt expressway

[CANYONERO]

coming home from work today ( and wednesday arvo too) there were two speed cameras on opposite sides of the expressway, im not against speed cameras but i am when its causing danger to motorists, all the traffic was slowing right down to walking pace going past the camera car then picking their speed up after it. The traffic was banked up for kilometers increasing the chance of rear end collisions by a heap, walking pace traffic ( for no reason on a 90km/h road mixed in with rain and darkness is asking for disaster)

i dont know who controls where they get put and its not their fault that the motorist are slowing down for them but c'mon, use some common sence, if its causing danger ( which clearly it was, why do it?)

ok had my rant

[ChargedBT1]

Yea saw the same cameras tonight around 6ish.

[Dan355]

So the cameras shouldnt be there to allow people to speed over 90k's (would be more dangerous)? The slower you drive the safer it is. Thats if people are decent drivers and are actually aware of whats goin on on the road and not tailgating. It does suck being slowed down of a freeway especially one so busy but thats life.

[jatsvl]

The slower you drive the safer it is.

any speed more than 10-15km/h under the speed limit increases the chances of an accident considerably and is also a finable offense especially when causing other vehicles to do the same.
we are all aware of what the speed cameras are for and maintaining a 90km/h speed past the camera is perfectly legal.

[System]

any speed more than 10-15km/h under the speed limit increases the chances of an accident considerably and is also a finable offense especially when causing other vehicles to do the same.
we are all aware of what the speed cameras are for and maintaining a 90km/h speed past the camera is perfectly legal.

totaly agree, i'm sure the cops would have been thinking "COMEON! speed up!"

[AirStrike]

Old man was coming home thursday night and got stuck in traffic because some idiot jumped on the brakes when he saw a camera causing a 3 car pile up.

[Sabbath']

About 8 years ago was in the car while mum was driving to DFO. All of a sudden some idiot in a Rav4 ran up our arse. Reason for the crash: He was looking at the camera car parked up on the side of the road.

As soon as the crash occured the camera car operator packed up and buggered off.

[CALAIS 6]

those cameras were there on thursdaya dn friday mornings casuing massive tailbacks too was bullshit

[alien]

If you have a problem with the location bring it to your states Traffic Camera Office.

The National Safety Guidelines state that they have to be placed in black spot areas or high risk collision areas. Many states also can have areas approved by a senior [in vic a Sergeant TMU officer or greater] officer.

Just for anyone viewing, in Vic, here are the regulations on placement [current as of today as well]: http://211.28.34.4:6080/JustCommodor...r%25202007.pdf

[TheForgotten]

i dont know who controls where they get put and its not their fault that the motorist are slowing down for them but c'mon, use some common sence, if its causing danger ( which clearly it was, why do it?)

believe me when i say not one single camera operator in the country gives a shit about causing accidents, all they want is money. i was popped by a camera on manly road (brisbane) about a month back, on a slight hill so the flash was at eye level, total darkness aside from my headlights. anyway, flash went off and i was blinded for about 5 mins afterward. no point bringin it up and tryin to have the fine voided for danger to traffic, they just want speeders at any cost

[woteva]

I saw them setting up the camera just before 8am on the outbound side on Friday. And saw them still there at noon. Headlights were flashing everywhere to warn others

[Hunter SS]

some people don't get it...... you go through a speed camera in a 60kph zone, and people feel that they should drive through the camera at 30kph..... there are a couple down around Newcastle in an 80kph zone, and you often get the f-wits that want to slow down to 50kph well before the camera in case they scare the camera into going off.... it's annoying!
I have nothing at all against speed cameras, just the way some stupid motorists approach them.

[alien]

some people don't get it...... you go through a speed camera in a 60kph zone, and people feel that they should drive through the camera at 30kph..... there are a couple down around Newcastle in an 80kph zone, and you often get the f-wits that want to slow down to 50kph well before the camera in case they scare the camera into going off.... it's annoying!
I have nothing at all against speed cameras, just the way some stupid motorists approach them.

HunterSS, you are right people stupidly slow down. I usually knock off 4-5km/h at most when going past one just in case my speedo might be out [havn't checked it recently].

However, it is known that cameras do malfunction and catch people speeding when they're not. Every effort is taken to reduce this error in radar or laser detection [which is why the rules in the PDF linked to above exist], however there are sometimes when the incorrect "speed" is caught. For many people it's easier to avoid the situation instead of fighting it in court with complex explinations on why the speed was recorded wrong!

And secondly, i share you view on slowing down for speed cameras anyways, but am more strongly against people that slow down when the notice a possible police vehicle behind them! I've been stuck behind so many people thinking my vehicle is an undercover! Even without wearing a Victoria Police shirt. Those people need to drink some cement and harden up! Dont break the road rules and you wont get pulled over. If you slow down because of a cop this also puts suspicion on you, the fact that the vehicle might be defectible!

[satos]

some people don't get it...... you go through a speed camera in a 60kph zone, and people feel that they should drive through the camera at 30kph..... there are a couple down around Newcastle in an 80kph zone, and you often get the f-wits that want to slow down to 50kph well before the camera in case they scare the camera into going off.... it's annoying!
I have nothing at all against speed cameras, just the way some stupid motorists approach them.

The matter of the fact is that motorists simply do not trust the accuracy of the cameras.
Remember a few years back when the cameras on Melbourne's Metropolitan Ring Road were booking motorists in some cases 40k's above the speed limit when in fact they were well below it.The cameras were eventually replaced after about a year.
On major freeways and high traffic carrying roads they are nothing but Revenue raising for the government.

[jules]

The matter of the fact is that motorists simply do not trust the accuracy of the cameras.
Remember a few years back when the cameras on Melbourne's Metropolitan Ring Road were booking motorists in some cases 40k's above the speed limit when in fact they were well below it.

slowing down isn't going to help if the camera is out to lunch. people slow down because they panic, thinking they might be speeding and over-react. if you know what speed you're doing, that it's legal, you don't need to panic - you just keep driving as you were. rather than blasting past everyone then looking like a total goose by suddenly jamming the picks on when you see a camera, as i see people do every time i take the Geelong Fwy.

[Hunter SS]

HunterSS, you are right people stupidly slow down. I usually knock off 4-5km/h at most when going past one just in case my speedo might be out [havn't checked it recently].

However, it is known that cameras do malfunction and catch people speeding when they're not. Every effort is taken to reduce this error in radar or laser detection [which is why the rules in the PDF linked to above exist], however there are sometimes when the incorrect "speed" is caught. For many people it's easier to avoid the situation instead of fighting it in court with complex explinations on why the speed was recorded wrong!

And secondly, i share you view on slowing down for speed cameras anyways, but am more strongly against people that slow down when the notice a possible police vehicle behind them! I've been stuck behind so many people thinking my vehicle is an undercover! Even without wearing a Victoria Police shirt. Those people need to drink some cement and harden up! Dont break the road rules and you wont get pulled over. If you slow down because of a cop this also puts suspicion on you, the fact that the vehicle might be defectible!

I have noticed this a couple of times in my SS. I don't know if it is because of the tinted windows, or what.... but when i come up behind some people they slow down.... it can be annoying,

The matter of the fact is that motorists simply do not trust the accuracy of the cameras.
Remember a few years back when the cameras on Melbourne's Metropolitan Ring Road were booking motorists in some cases 40k's above the speed limit when in fact they were well below it.The cameras were eventually replaced after about a year.

If the camera is toast, then you are going to cop it anyway...... it is then up to you to prove your innocence. Obviously going well below the speed limit didn't help those it got.... i do recall reading about that one.

On major freeways and high traffic carrying roads they are nothing but Revenue raising for the government.

of course it raises revenue..... but if you don't speed, you won't be fined, easy as that The law is the law....

[PaulSV6]

Whos, bright idea was it to install speed cameras on a freeway!