G'day all typical 'I'm new here' thread

[ArmyRhino]

Hi,

My names Ryan and I am currently based down in Melbourne, VIC at Simpsons Barracks, Macleod, 3085. Its near Greensborough and about 10 mins from City.

I own a 06' 6SP Manual VZ SV6 and I've been reading the threads posted on supercharging said model.

I basically wanna get my car sounding loud and tough and aim to eventually have 300kw at the wheels...no more no less.

Is it possible? and how much am I looking at total (labour, gst, and all) Money is no real problem I just have no mechanical experience and I wanna get in the game and learn a bit while i'm doing it.

I frequently fly and drive to QLD as well so I can get it done there also.

I always see CAPA advertised in car mags and ony really saw raptors now so I wanna know whats the difference if there is any in what you guys do?

I hope this aint to much to ask, look forward to any links and replies!

Regards,

Ryan.

[adamc11]

From what i know, i think the raptor kits are locally made so they arn't affected by the poor aussie dollar, and are usually a lot cheaper than the competition. I've looked at dyno sheets and they seem to get good power, but i don't think you'll get 300rwkw without spending a lot of $$$. To get that sort of power out of a V8 your looking at about 6k, so even more for a v6.

[vs-6]

i would think that if u built a motor with forgies and such that was strong and could handle a big of boost then you could put a cam in it raptor kit built gearbox and throw in some diff gears should see you pushing about 300rwkw but i would think u would need to be running at least 15psi.
A raptor sc kit with intercooler is about $5500 - $6500 and that claims 235rwkw with bolt ons
i have just finished mine today havent got it dynoed yet
but yer why u want 300rwkw any reason wat quater times u after
i did all mine myself and it was a big learning curve so supercharging is not too hard for any1 thats good with there hands.
as yours is an sv6 presuming its the 190kw??
i think you may get more power than the 235 because i think thats for a standard vz.

[ArmyRhino]

hey thanks for the replies so far...

I was just aiming for the 300kw as it was a good strong number...thats great advice already i'll aim for 250kw instead to begin with!

Yeah I'm running the 190kw 6sp vz sv6... 235rkw from a bolt on sounds awesome...i'd love to see/read specs from anyone with a similiar setup to mine to know what im expecting...

How much would 235rkw be at the engine as they quote with holden these days?

$5500 drive away? or is that without labour??? if so thats an awesome price I'd be willing to drive up for that no problems. Give me next holiday I take as I made around $1000 a week and i'll be happy to make a booking once i confirm details and know my next holiday for sure!

Keep advice coming!!!

I'm still tossing up between selling her later and buying a new SS or something... I just like the idea of a supercharged 6 to rival the XR6 turbo...


Any ideas?

[ArmyRhino]

also.... whats the go on stroker and bore kits???


any available or can be made for the VZ SV6???? links, info, advice, and prices much appreciated....

The idea of a stroked blown 6 sounds wicked

Hoping to throw a full exhaust kit with the supercharger kit on and stroke/bore it and get it tuned in one hit

Regards,

Ryan.

[ArmyRhino]

And yeah I'm running an 06' VZ SV6 6SP manual 190kw....


I dunno 300rkw just sounded like a good powerful solid figure...I'm very new to 6's and supercharging..... 250rkw sounds like a good goal to aim for then

[sircruisealotVS]

the problem with the alloytec is there isn't anything really available for it internally - no one does cams for them, so it would be completely custom and then its pricey as, because you just dont need one.
there's no stroker kits or even forged pistons or anything like that for them either, so the options internally are limited.

BUT, just simple bolt-ons and a intercooled raptor setup will turn the alloytec into a little monster of a engine - don't go aiming for figures with the build - just drive the damn thing and feel how awesome it is! (kw at the wheels mean nothing really, just good for throwing around in conversation - torque is where it's at!)

[impulsesv6]

300rwkw....WOW

250rwkw "may" be achieveable.....

for start you will need, extractors, high flow cats and decent exhaust...if you are prepared to wait and/or you are serious about travelling up to Matt Stockers w/shop, Matt knows a few secrets for the exhaust...

also dont expect the 250-300rwkw for the $5500

as for the stroker kit......when you find one let me know..... only custom parts available atm

id also save yourself about another 1500 for a set of 3.46, 3.73, or 3.91 diff gears fitted and calibrated - you will get change back from this
and you will also need a HD Clutch kit

[Raptorsc]

Armyrhino

We can do you good system for sure, the 250rwkw will be a good start point, we have some 235rwkw items out there but if your budget is bigger then some more development is possible.

I posted the contact numbers for Matt in Brisbane, give him a tingle and take it from there.

A strong clutch, perfect exhaust/extractor combo and a change of diff gears would be a great start, from there add the intercooled SC system with a massive tune effort and see how we go.

We can get forged pistons for the Alloytec anytime you like, no problem.

Allow around the $9k ish to cover pretty much all I have listed above in a drive in drive out format. Ok that doesn't include the forgies.

Bren, we can get forgies from same place as the Magna pistons we had done recently if you ever get forged dreams

Forged Alloytec pistons around the $1850 and with about a 2 week wait

[totq]

300rwkw out of your alloytech - Wow!
How $$$ much have you got and are willing to commit to this "good strong number" ?
If you get to 230 - 250rwkw, you'd be blowing away many cars you meet on the roads anyway.
Good luck mate, i'm very sure the raptor kit will give you a big improvement in power.

[impulsesv6]

YouTube - impulsesv6 burnout @ willowbank
YouTube - Raptored Impulsesv6 on dyno
YouTube - impulsesv6 0-100 raptored
YouTube - Raptored Impulsesv6 driveby


its tempting isnt it, lol

[ArmyRhino]

YouTube - impulsesv6 burnout @ willowbank
YouTube - Raptored Impulsesv6 on dyno
YouTube - impulsesv6 0-100 raptored
YouTube - Raptored Impulsesv6 driveby


its tempting isnt it, lol

Damn right its tempting! Dont worry ive watched all your vids impulse....

I want it1 I want it! I want it!

First step will be as sugested I've talked to Matt on the phone today... when I hit Melbourne I'ma source an extreme HD clutch as suggested....

also what would be a good exhaust system to get with this setup in mind???

I was also recommended the midrange intercooled option which ill go for the $7600 drive away.... and to grab some pacemaker extractors as well!

Mwahaha this is sounding awseome...I'll prep the car with the aformentioned goodies and the exhaust upgrade u guys think is best and next holidays ill book myself in to Matts for the SC

keep the help coming guys your life savers on time, effort and research and experience is truely valued.

[ArmyRhino]

300rwkw....WOW

250rwkw "may" be achieveable.....

for start you will need, extractors, high flow cats and decent exhaust...if you are prepared to wait and/or you are serious about travelling up to Matt Stockers w/shop, Matt knows a few secrets for the exhaust...

also dont expect the 250-300rwkw for the $5500

as for the stroker kit......when you find one let me know..... only custom parts available atm

id also save yourself about another 1500 for a set of 3.46, 3.73, or 3.91 diff gears fitted and calibrated - you will get change back from this
and you will also need a HD Clutch kit

I know the figure of 300rkw was going to be costly from the start I'm not that naive I've converted a 4G93 Mitsubishi Mirage into an evo 6 all wheel drive monster cost around 10k all up.

Now I got a new plan

Army can get boring with alot of money and nothing to buy when your out in the desert for 8 months shooting at tin cans

As for the stoker kit no probs if I see it before you i will deffinatly post and pm u first mate you helped me so I'd owe you.

As for travelling to Matts no problem! army pays for my trips...hehe

Where would I go about scoring a 3.46, 3.73, or 3.91 diff and which would u reccomend???

Regards,

Ryan.

[ArmyRhino]

these what I should be looking for?

Holden VZ & VE Alloytech V6 - Xtreme Clutch - All Australian Clutches - Xtreme Clutch

Pacemaker Headers Australia - Quality Performance Exhaust Headers :: VT-VZ V8 Exhaust Systems - Pacemaker Exhaust System (Extractors, High flow cat ect....)

CAPA : Price List - they list a VT and a VX 3.91 diff kit..... would either of those work or there a better place/ VZ variant???

cheers,

Ryan.

[Raptorsc]

The clutch pick is good, go for that

The Pacemakers the items to get

And there should be other suppliers of gears, Impulsesv6 I am sure could help here

[ArmyRhino]

The clutch pick is good, go for that

The Pacemakers the items to get

And there should be other suppliers of gears, Impulsesv6 I am sure could help here

cheers for checking ill grab them when I go back home... and ill PM Impulsesv6

[impulsesv6]

i believe there is 2 different size ring gears for the diff, a 7" and a 9"....

when you visit Matt Stocker or a w/shop close to you that does your tune, just tell them the diff gears you want and they will be able to do it for you.....fit and calibrate..

they will outsource the work to a diff workshop...

[totq]

Where would I go about scoring a 3.46, 3.73, or 3.91 diff and which would u reccomend???

Regards,

Ryan.

3.46 (and 3.7) would be regarded as an all-rounder. Good launches but still ok economy when cruising. If your car is a daily driver and you do a fair bit of highway cruising, consider these.
If you want your car biased towards fast track times, then 3.91 and above (4.11) are the ones to get.
I know a bloke with a VS L67 who went from stock 3.08 to 3.9 and he wasn't too happy with the fuel economy, but that was what he compromised for its performance though.

[ArmyRhino]

3.46 (and 3.7) would be regarded as an all-rounder. Good launches but still ok economy when cruising. If your car is a daily driver and you do a fair bit of highway cruising, consider these.
If you want your car biased towards fast track times, then 3.91 and above (4.11) are the ones to get.
I know a bloke with a VS L67 who went from stock 3.08 to 3.9 and he wasn't too happy with the fuel economy, but that was what he compromised for its performance though.

ok cheers...u wouldnt happen to know the estimates on those fuel consumption rates like 12l/100km 7l/100 highway ect......I tried sourcing but to no avail....

I would love a 13 or lower track time

Should I get the diffs done before or when I get it SC?

[impulsesv6]

if you want a track time and not fuel consumption...go for the 3.91 diff gears... id get them the same time as the SC kit cos then Matt can calibrate at the same time...

have a look at x-force exhausts....thats what i have, Twin 2.5” with oval rear muffler:
XForce - Performance Exhaust Systems

[totq]

u wouldnt happen to know the estimates on those fuel consumption rates like 12l/100km 7l/100 highway ect......I tried sourcing but to no avail....

My mate's L67 changed from 12ish/100km to 14ish/100km averaged fuel consumption. On freeway i would think it is around 10ish/100.

[ArmyRhino]

thats not too bad...as I already high rev all the time getting those figures anyway lol....if I tone back I'd get the same figures and get excellent track times....

curious though... how much different would the 3.46 be to the 3.91...seeing as my stock is 2.9 or something anyway


As for the x-force....looking into it mate ...but i figured why not buy there whole exhaust hit from extractors right through to tips...rather than mix n match?

what u guys think?

[ArmyRhino]

...stupid x-force website wont show me the sv6 models of what it has....must be my webbrowser or something...

[ArmyRhino]

Hey all, been living up my holiday in the Sunny state bu now im heading back to cold wet, depressing Melbourne!

I sourced those items i mentioned earlier in my time mentioned below what you think?:

Rang Pacemaker boys they quoted me full exhaust system all stainless bar the extractors in mild for $2180 for the parts.

Xforce however qouted me $870 in mild parts and $1100 in stainless.


Any idea why the prices between the two are so different and what would you boys recommend?

As for the HD Clutch I got qouted $1550 + $420 labour and thats the kit which includes a flywheel. Does that sound right?

Look forwards to replys,

Regards

Ryan.

[vr_owner]

3.46 (and 3.7) would be regarded as an all-rounder. Good launches but still ok economy when cruising. If your car is a daily driver and you do a fair bit of highway cruising, consider these.
If you want your car biased towards fast track times, then 3.91 and above (4.11) are the ones to get.
I know a bloke with a VS L67 who went from stock 3.08 to 3.9 and he wasn't too happy with the fuel economy, but that was what he compromised for its performance though.

our raptor car gets4-600kms to a tank, and the auto needs to be re-tuned aswell.