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New Commodore racers - Motorsport - Driven

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A very select number of next-generation Holden Commodores will be rear-wheel-drive and are expected to offer twin turbo V6 performance.

They will be the Commodores built to spearhead Holden’s renewed commitment to the 2018 Supercar Championship.

The first new shape Commodore racers are expected to be on the grid for the opening round of the Supercars season in 2018, within weeks of the production car going on sale.

Development of the car is in the hands of the Triple Eight Race Engineering squad that will assume the Holden Racing Team moniker as the sole factory-blessed team from next season.

Holden recently confirmed a three-year deal with Triple Eight that will see the team build and race the new Commodore from 2018 as well as sell cars to other Holden teams.

Holden hasn’t confirmed an engine for the new racer but it seems likely it will use a twin turbo V6 unit. That engine could come from the wider GM family.

There is a V6 turbo engine in the GT3-specification Cadillac ATS-V.R campaigned in the Pirelli World Challenge Series in North America since 2015.

And a new Dallara chassis Cadillac with V6 turbo power is expected to be announced soon for the Daytona Prototype International category of the IMSA Weathertech Sports Car Championship debuting in 2017.

From shortly after its debut in late-1978, the Commodore has enjoyed an unbroken tenure at the top level of Australian motor racing with the first of 24 Bathurst 1000 victories and 14 Australian Touring Car Championship/V8 Supercar Series drivers’ titles being delivered in 1980.

But the Commodore’s first headline motorsport success came as a six-cylinder rally car when Peter Brock headed a 1-2-3 finish for the VB model Commodore in the Repco Round Australia Trial in August 1979.
 

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So.... They announce the release of this new Commodore body with a turbo 4cyl and a 6cyl that is so big they can't fit a turbo to it.

But then they talk about the new Commodore body being used with a twin turbo 6cyl. I love the internet sometimes! Time will tell. If they release a turbo 6cyl with AWD in a wagon body. I'm on it.
 

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Don't forget that the race cars are absolutely nothing like the road cars; they're a custom chassis with the lightest-possible panels bolted to the outside which have a resemblance to the road car.

The chassis & suspension on the 2018 V6 car is probably barely any different to the 2017 car; there's absolutely no reason they wouldn't just put different panels on the outside & fit the turbo powertrain, except maybe for some slightly-different cooling-related challenges with the need for an intercooler (so slightly different holes up-front maybe). So it's not a 'body' per se, just exterior panels made to make the car look a bit like the road car ... in fact, does anyone know if there's any requirement to have remotely similar exterior dimensions?

The engine-bay in one of these cars has absolutely no similarity to the engine-bay in an Insignia. :)
 

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it offends me that there's a pic pf Brocky's 05 in the OP.

that is all.
 

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... in fact, does anyone know if there's any requirement to have remotely similar exterior dimensions?

I thought the current Supercar dimensions were already different to the road cars coz Car of the Future guidelines.
 

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.. they might be new race cars

BUT THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL THEY ARE COMMODORES!

Sports sedan more like it, space frame chassis and an unobtainable TTV6


and yes, that pic of 05 above is an insult to the 'man' and the car !
 

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.. they might be new race cars

BUT THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL THEY ARE COMMODORES!

Sports sedan more like it, space frame chassis and an unobtainable TTV6
This is just consistent with the last 20+ years, then, innit? :)
 

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.. they might be new race cars

BUT THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL THEY ARE COMMODORES!

I don't know why people get so up in arms over this, it's category racing and this category has what it has - others have production cars. That's racing.

I miss production cars being top tier but the top end just isn't and has been for many years.
 

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That’s because the spectator base has gone along with the ever so subtle changes to the ‘production cars’ since the demise of GroupA.
The thin edge of the wedge was putting Falcon front suspensions under the Commodores for parity reasons, then shortening the VE wheelbase, sequential gearboxes, blah blah etc.
And nobody really noticed or cared.
COTY was brought in to contain costs, and that has really worked hasn’t it ?
Who could have predicted that Brock’s mongrel A30 would form the basis for todays top category, rather than his XU1..
As for following the red or blue, or a particular driver, it has got to the same stage as NRL where a club has a choice of 4 different uniforms to wear on the day and players swapping clubs mid season.
They can stick a Corolla, or BMW 7 series body on a current chassis for all I care, I just don’t follow motor racing any more.
 

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That’s because the spectator base has gone along with the ever so subtle changes to the ‘production cars’ since the demise of GroupA.
The thin edge of the wedge was putting Falcon front suspensions under the Commodores for parity reasons, then shortening the VE wheelbase, sequential gearboxes, blah blah etc.
And nobody really noticed or cared. ...................

Actually... they did care
and walked away from the sport.

Introducing the V8s in '95 was smart and the crowds grew but once they started
sticking sedan panels on a space frame and introducing all this parity bullshit
the TV and track audiences has got smaller .. and then they went overseas and
the audience got smaller .....

meanwhile TCM and Classics and GT series have grown immensely in popularity


.. wonder why
 
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