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    Default What a disaster - House Acrylic Roof Sealant on my VE

    Hello People,

    Right now, I feel like just taking a long walk off a short pier.

    I cleaned and sprayed acrylic sealant on my roof, prior to repainting my house roof. What I didn't realise, was that the sealant, settled on my car ( wind gusts I guess ), and now, my windows, duco, windscreen, have a fine film of acrylic roof sealant all over it! You can see and feel it on the duco, rough to the touch, and like looking through a fine mist on the windscreen.

    I've checked out a few webpages, looking for answers to remove this, but so far no luck.

    Can anyone supply any info that would help me to remove this! If I am forced to respray the entire car, what would this cost me ? ( Phantom Black )

    Man, I am so upset, it was in pristine condition, and this has really jolted me as I was about to install a stage 3 cam, etc, but now, jeez, what can I say. Sob!

    Any ideas appreciated.

    Cheers
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    Tried a claybar or buffing? Am not too familiar with acrylic sealant but if it is remotely similar to paint it should come off fairly easy.


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    metho on the glass? good cutting compound for the paint , maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by impulsive View Post
    try a detailer?
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    Only similar as far as acrylic base is my guess , same compound, but different properties. I had this issue with a neighbour spraying paint a few years back. Paint came off quite well with some work as water based, but sealant is designed to penetrate whatever it is applied to, in order to create a binding surface for the paint, so a much tougher customer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuzzy2308 View Post
    metho on the glass? good cutting compound for the paint , maybe.
    Metho, won't work, as it is used to break down the molecules in oil, on water based no effect. Tried a cutting compound today ( Meganes - Light Cut ), some improvement, but my guesstimate would be another hundred or so of these applications needed :P - If a deep cut is needed, well, so be it, but on metallic paint, the cure could be just as bad.

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    Stop everything.

    Get yourself some clay and clay lube - it should come off pretty easily...

    You might want to polish and wax after claying too.
    Quote Originally Posted by CSP (aka Rufys) View Post
    Look, all the update is going to be is like going from VX to VY or VY to VZ. Same car with different front/rear ends and updated interior. But it will be the VF, not the VE II.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davey g-force View Post
    Stop everything.

    Get yourself some clay and clay lube - it should come off pretty easily...

    You might want to polish and wax after claying too.
    Good advice, bought a clay pack today, will try when the missus gets home. For the windows, seeing that the tint is on the inside, I found that a simple steelo and soap, did the trick beautifully. I also tried the steelo on her car ( old Feroza 2 ). It did work as well, but being an older car, with dull paint work, and cheap at that, the results were good. How it would go on a phantom black paint job, well, I'm a bit hesitant. Not sure how the clay pack will work with this sealant, it is really bonded in, but what you have said, and the manufacturers claims make sense. We shall see.

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    Let us know how it goes.

    Yeah, don't try the steelo on your black SSV, you're guaranteed to swirl / marr the clear coat. Just the thought makes me cringe lol...
    Quote Originally Posted by CSP (aka Rufys) View Post
    Look, all the update is going to be is like going from VX to VY or VY to VZ. Same car with different front/rear ends and updated interior. But it will be the VF, not the VE II.
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    use brand new razor blades on the windows.

    prepsol should get it off the paint, if not then thinners will. either way will require buffing afterwards. both should be really quick applications, i.e. wipe on wet then wipe off dry.

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    If I were you I'd first try turps (turpentine) on the windows to see if it lifts the acrylic sealer. From my experience, turps works very effectively on acrylic paint removal even though the acrylic paints are water based. Turps will definitely NOT affect the two pack paint on your car as it's a lower level volatility than either thinners (which I'd certainly not use) or prepsol (which is really a last resort for a whole-car application). Turps certainly won't affect the glass that's why I'm suggesting starting there as a test. If that works then pick an inconspicuous painted portion of your vehicle - under the bonnet would be good - and rub some turps on there just to satisfy yourself that it won't damaged the paint finish. I'd certainly keep metho away from the paint as it will react similar to brake fluid and turn the clear coat white. Don't try anything like acetone because that's too high a volatility as well. Best of luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterrobo View Post
    If I were you I'd first try turps (turpentine) on the windows to see if it lifts the acrylic sealer. From my experience, turps works very effectively on acrylic paint removal even though the acrylic paints are water based. Turps will definitely NOT affect the two pack paint on your car as it's a lower level volatility than either thinners (which I'd certainly not use) or prepsol (which is really a last resort for a whole-car application). Turps certainly won't affect the glass that's why I'm suggesting starting there as a test. If that works then pick an inconspicuous painted portion of your vehicle - under the bonnet would be good - and rub some turps on there just to satisfy yourself that it won't damaged the paint finish. I'd certainly keep metho away from the paint as it will react similar to brake fluid and turn the clear coat white. Don't try anything like acetone because that's too high a volatility as well. Best of luck
    Hi, exactly what I tried a few hours ago, before replying to the thread, and yes, works a treat. A couple of bottles of turps, and fine micofibre clothes, followed by a good Wax, and then final detail, and I think we are onto a winner. Tried a small portion of the hood, and looks great. For the windows, same and steelo. I wonder if the extra money I paid for the paint protection was part of the saver ?

    Will post a pic on the weekend, show you the final result. Thanks everyone for your input. Have included one before the disaster. Tried to take a pic showing the difference, but can't get the resolution to show the changes.What a disaster - House Acrylic Roof Sealant on my VE-img_3362-resize.jpg

    I was heartbroken for a while there. I have maintained this car, like no other, as I was looking for a long term vehicle, I could eventually turn into a showcar. Now, I can go ahead with my Stage 3 Cam, new headers, 3 1/2" catback, etc, to go what I already have - factory sunroof, full interior leather ( SS, not SS-V ), rear park assist ( waste of money ), full darkest legal tint, paint and leather protection ).

    Cheers, and thankyou so much - Doc

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    Glad it worked out for you.

    ...I'm sorry but those led's at the front of your car look cheap IMO...
    Quote Originally Posted by CSP (aka Rufys) View Post
    Look, all the update is going to be is like going from VX to VY or VY to VZ. Same car with different front/rear ends and updated interior. But it will be the VF, not the VE II.
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    the paint protection would of saved you some way as most paint protection just seals the pores of the paint you can always use wax and grease remover ie prepsol on you paint work thats wat its designed for cleaning the surface ideal for tar removal , im an old school spray painter and always keep a product called T CUT in the shed its a very fine cutting solution thats ideal for hand application for minor scratch marks and also would of removed the over spray from your car it can be used with a buff as well produces an awsome shine on acrylic paints in particular , glad to here your baby is ok too .

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    Quote Originally Posted by davey g-force View Post
    Glad it worked out for you.

    ...I'm sorry but those led's at the front of your car look cheap IMO...
    AGREEE.....possibly Italian or Asian, either way PISS THEM OFF

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    Just a few points which made me cringe,I make my living as a detailer for Holden and Im amazed at the way some people abuse their cars.
    1) Never use STEELO OR A SCOURER on your glass or paint. (Use a razor blade on your glass)
    2) Never clean your paint with thinners.( use a clay bar)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty View Post
    Tried a claybar or buffing? Am not too familiar with acrylic sealant but if it is remotely similar to paint it should come off fairly easy.
    If it's proper roof sealant like Dulux Acratex, it'll be xylene based.

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    a clay bar and lube is your friend. use it on the paint and it will remove the roof sealant. clay has been around for ages and is used in panel shops for removing overspray. once you have done it on the paint then use it on the glass as the glass is alot harder to mark so its fine to use the old clay on it.

    do not use scourers or steel wool, will damage the clear
    do not use thinners as it will soften the clear and will make it easier to mark in the future
    do not use cutting compound as it will dislodge the contaminates on the paint surface and drag them all over the paint and marr up the clear coat.

    on a side note, if you had applied a good sealant/wax to protect your paint then this wont be as much of an issue as it would of made it hard for the roof sealant to bond to the paint therefore easy to remove it

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    Hey,

    I'm a spraypainter and like to clear up a couple of misconceptions I've noticed here.

    On 2k Paints, cleaning with Thinners is fine, as is Prepsol. However you will need to polish the car afterwards. Steel wool is also fine to use on glass. NEVER EVER EVER
    put it anywhere near your paint!!!!!

    Also, if you can't get it off, PM me and I'll come I'll come and have a look at it for you.
    If it needs to be reprayed (which I doubt) I can help you either find a place to get it done or do it for you.

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