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Discussion in 'General' started by fabz, Dec 23, 2005.

  1. Stretcher Bearer

    Stretcher Bearer A.R.N.G.

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    Well that's a bit naughty then isn't it?

    You aren't required to move out of the way of a police car that isn't displaying red or blue beacons or sounding a siren or horn.

    The trucks were doing their thing under their usual 'stuff everyone else' unwritten rules.
     
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    aaronevolution Donating Member

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    I saw a copper in a marked Ford Territory driving whilst on the phone only yesterday... bunch of wankers I tell you.
     
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    Stretcher Bearer A.R.N.G.

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    They are exempt.
     
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    I have a problem with what vxcustom is saying, that is wrong for several reasons. Mainly the police not only didn't do their job (protecting the safety of the workers and other road users), they were also breaking the law. However it is not against the law for them to be talking on the phone. There are justifiable reasons for them to need to be able to use the phone (for one eg. - operational security) and I believe they've got more driver training than the average Joe (or is that just Hwy Patrol?). However they shouldn't IF there was a second officer in the vehicle (in my opinion). It'd also be nice if they could be charged for making personal phone calls while driving, but I don't see how that'd be enforceable unfortunately. So I'd give them a break for the phone use as they are allowed, and may have had a valid reason to be doing so (hardly getting yourself worked up over something that could be legit and justified).
     
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    When and why can the Victoria police confiscate number plates? can they take them because they think the car is unroadworthy
     
  6. Rusty

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    Is infringement description "left hand" sufficient to stand up in court?

    Sent from my GT-I9100 using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
     
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    acarmody Donati..Whoa Green

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    You do realise you replied to a comment 7.5 years old, right?
     
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    Jxfwsf Well-Known Member

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    they confiscate them from unregistered vehicles (or stolen plates), so the car shouldn't be on the road anyway.
     
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    Gee this thread has gone rather quiet. Everyone must all be up to speed.
     
  10. davey g-force

    davey g-force I'm a sceptic...

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    Well perhaps it will pick up again, now that you're 'back'! :D
     
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    commodore665 expat Saffa

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    That has to be a good thing
     
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    even if your not hiding anything, it sure does make you look like you are hiding something
     
  13. Tasmaniak

    Tasmaniak Not a valid input....

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    Roof mounted spotlights.... What's the laws? Mine are on my four wheel drive. They are independently switched and are also only able to be switched on when on high beam. They also automatically shut off when dipping.

    Typical rule of thumb is that I don't use them, however... Give me a loxng straight stretch and they are coming on.

    No, I don't have covers for them... Wish I did, make of easier to clean the bugs off.
     
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    Tasmaniak Not a valid input....

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    Oh and I'm trying to make sense of the current mobile device laws.

    My car has an active cradle fitted to it. Its permanently fixed into the car and when I get, the phone goes into that and automatically pairs to my bluetooth. What am I and and am I not allowed to do on it?

    Can I control my music on it? As in skips songs and find playlists.

    Can I dial a number manually that's not in my phone book?

    Use it as GPS and input an address?

    Send a text message/email?

    Browse the internet?

    Now.... Before you say "this guys a moron" I'm only guilty of a couple of things up there... Music and manually entering a phone number when voice dialling doesn't work.

    But, I'm an accessories fitter and do a lot of fleet work and these are the questions I get asked. Once it used to be easy.... Yes, not safe to do so but.not illegal. Laws are different now and I was hoping you could put them into simple English
     
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    I heard many years ago (don't really know if it's accurate), that any after market light fitted to the front of a car,
    must not be mounted above the factory head lights.
     
  16. Reaper

    Reaper Tells it like it is.

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    It would appear no to each of these questions: https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/safety-and-road-rules/driver-safety/mobile-phones-and-driving. In short if you have to touch the phone *at all* then the answer is no. How that works with tablets without telephone capability I'm not sure although if it has a SIM and 3G/4G capability then it may be deemed as a communication device and covered too.
     
  17. Tasmaniak

    Tasmaniak Not a valid input....

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    And I've heard so many different things on it...
    Not allowed to be higher then 1500mm to the centre of the bulb on a pre'89 vehicle.
    No more then two lights showing to the front at anytime
    No more then two aftermarket lights showing to the front at anytime
    Covers must be on
    Covers don't matter
    Bulb centres must be a particular distance apart, symmetrical and even height
    Must always be an even amount of lights showing.

    So confusing. The only thing I stick to are..
    All lights must have their own independent switch.
    Fog lights will only switch on when the park lights are on and will extinguish with low beam or high beam
    "Driving Lights" will switch on with low beam but extinguish with high beam
    Spotlights will only come on with high beam and extinguish automatically with any other light.
    DRLs will come on with Ignition and extinguish with the park lights. Also, if I'm feeling super nice and the DRLs will be located near the indicators to the extent that it may be difficult to see the indicator with the LED glare, then I'll set it up to switch that particular sides DRL off when the indicators are on. A La Jeep style.


    I think thats where I need the clarification. Since once the phone is in the holder, its essentially as solidly mounted as stereo... touchscreen... can do many of the things my phone can including send messages via my phone in a long winded roundabout way. Would that be legal? Because it's not a communication device... it's just connected to one...

    Please don't get me wrong, definetly not trying to be a smartarse or prove the law wrong. But these are sorts of questions my customers ask me and I would like to be able to answer them confidently (still always with a disclaimer to verify themselves)

    ~:EDIT:~

    Pulled this from that webpage you linked me to mate which suggests I can actually do a lot of those things provided its in the commercially designed holder fixed to the vehicle. For instance, this is screwed to the dashboard...

    [​IMG]

    These should be deemed illegal in my books. The amount of cars I see going past me with a phone stuck right in front of the driver or in the middle of the windscreen.... with the damn GPS. The bonus of the above cradle is that it will require profesional installation in almost every case which means it SHOULD be placed in a smart location.
    [​IMG]

    Anyway, here is that section from your linked webpage...

     
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    This is all I can find regarding lights. But doesn't explain how they are to be mounted.

     
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    Jeez Tas, you have been busy.
     
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    I took my happy pill this morning. The amount of work that gets done when I'm in a good mood is incredible.
     

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