Oh ok, I have no idea but Google images is my guide. haha! What are the 17's then, VT GTS maybe? Had a another Gumtree Win today, got some better nick doorcards, a dashmat, the tool to wind down the spare wheel and a 2.5" Redback Catback exhaust, all for $150. The Spare Winder Handle alone is $70 from Holden. Exhaust was Easy as to bolt on and sounds very well indeed.