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Driver kills 11month old child.

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by Kikki, Apr 21, 2008.

  1. Kikki

    Kikki WA Cruise Moderator

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    Neighbours tackled the man, which means NO he wasn't running to get help, help was already there. I understand though, shock and all, I think anyone would run.

    There had been earlier reports of this car speeding throughout other areas in Perth, the police had been called about a Red Monaro speeding and weaving through traffic along Albany highway, could be another car? possible. But I am pretty sure the charges etc and police media reports so far, yes he was speeding & drinking.

    Check out this link.... The Monaro was airborne for 12 metres!
    http://www.police.wa.gov.au/Portals...9 1400 Fatal Crash Thornlie Berehaven Ave.pdf
     
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    OK OK he was not speeding then. He was just driving nomally and some how hit a car jumped a wall/fence smashed into a house and kill a baby. The report may be wrong.

    Baby is still dead - Car still hit a house. He still ran from the accident.

    Baby aint comming back and he will get years in the slammer.

    That bit wont change.

    (he really probably almost certainly with out doubt was driving a wee bit too fast for his ability then) Just maybe. hmmm
     
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    like i said. angry mob = run like hell
    nah holden only released 1 red one. mustve been speeding cause it was red and red cars go faster.
     
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    Well, after reading that police report I think it sheds a bit mroe light on the situation. Very sad to see this happen.
     
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    I find it hard to believe a car doing 50-60kms would be airborne for 12 meters. Terrible loss, huge horrible mistake that yet another idiot driver will have learn the hard way.
     
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    like i said.... Vtech
     
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    60km/h = 17 metres a second. only needed to be off the ground for a split second to go that for doing the limit
     
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    While im not going to comment on what happened here, people presuming he ran because he is guilty is stupid. My friend, whilst on Ps, got cleaned up by someone and that forced his car to hit another, killing the other car's passenger. After he saw the damage he went into shock and ran around a corner and crouched over and started throwing up.

    The person in the car that made the illegal turn that hit him got out of the car and tackled him while he was on the ground chucking up his guts. That made people automatically assume the P Plater was at guilt. Luckily the facts defended my friend and not the moron who was in the wrong.

    Going into shock is a hell of a thing, been there myself, you dont really remember what you did hence its name and everyones reactions are always different.
     
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    to be fair stocky, the inital impack is going to dampen alot of the speed the car is carrying, especially to get it airborne i say 5-7 meters is conieveable at that speed

    i reckon he woulda been going atleast 70 or 80
     
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    Who knows that he didnt try and hit the go pedal to avoid somthing, or even by accident? Too many variables for us to stew over.
     
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    thats true, i remember getting out of the car when my calais was smashed up, waiting for the dust to settle... not knowing if anyone was dead :S

    and wondering where the hell the car that was on the trailer had dissapeared to!!!!!!!!!
     
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    yet another thread I see Minux with his "V8 blinkers" on.

    How can you take the side of this fool ?

    Doesn't the fact that he legged it from the scene of the accident say something about his character ???

    I hope Bubba tears him a new one !!! Thats a tragic story !!!
     
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    for gods sake did you not bother reading the rest of the thread?

    im sick of people jumping to conclusions. noone knows the facts. im not going to go giving the guy **** over something that may not have been his fault, whether he had been drinking or not
     
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    So we need a physcological report on this one ???

    I've witnessed accidents and peoples reaction to them... I'm not niave... people just don't get up and leg it... shock sets in pretty straight away.

    People who go into shock don't make conscious decisions... they become lifeless to there surrounds.

    Panicking with guilt are reasons to run.

    There's no mention of him reacting to try and get some help... he just looked at the damag and fled the scene and then needed restraining.... there's no mention of any physcological state... You would think that would be noted ??? "The driver appeared dazed and in a state of confusion..." or something... no he needed restraining until police arrived.

    Damn guilt if you ask me.
     
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    I'm with you. Panic & Guilt.

    Unless the car was stolen or belonged to someone else, legging it was silly, he was always going to get caught at some point down the track.

    He was just horrified at what had happened as anyone would - be it accident or act of stupidity.
     
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    :rofl: This is all relating back to a ****ing newspaper article not a police report, how about we wait until that comes out? We all know how truthful newspaper reports are...

    As for shock, people react differently, just because YOU react one way doesn't mean others react the same.
     
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    Some of the info has come from my sister, which has actually come directly from the mother and her sister, as for the police media reports, look back on the last page and you will see I posted a link to the police media report.
     
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    it doesnt say anything in the police report about speeding? it just says he tried to over take 2 cars, doesnt say at warp speed. the Hyundai Elantra could have been going slow and he tried to overtake not knowing that she was going to turn right and cliped her.

    Theres a difference in cruising at 60km and gunning it at 60km, theres more foward force involved so it would have been harder for the holden to stop.

    but and the end of the day he was drink driving
     
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    The police report said it all realy. He been drinking, tried to overtake 2 cars and...... Looks like the house roof has some damage too. Must have hit that hard too.

    How unlucky for the mum and baby. Very sad indeed.
     
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    deary me....while the drink driving is bad, there is no mention of speed etc. Knowing what most 80 year old idiots on the road drive like chances are they were doing 40 and proceeded to turn right with no indicator. See it every day. Interesting they don't say what the BAC level was.
     

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