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Headliner - should I bother?

Discussion in 'VN - VP Holden Commodore (1988 - 1993)' started by Paulib, Nov 22, 2010.

  1. Paulib

    Paulib New Member

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    I tried to fix the headliner - and in all honesty gave it a half arsed attempt and it ended up the same as it was lol and I can't be bothered trying again because I dont think I have any skills when it comes to fabric.

    I looked into getting it repaired professionally. I called about 8 places everyone said it would take at least 9 hours (Thats when I realized I had half assed it as I only took 2) and at least $400 if they headliner was in good enough condition. It has a slight bend in it but nothing major.

    I've kinda figured being a 91 with 300k on the clock and I brought it for 2.5k its not really worth fixing.

    I assume it'll look shit if I leave the actual carboard headliner in without any material so I'm thinking about pulling it out all together and just having the metal roof.

    What do you guys think? Should I just suck it up and spend the money, should I just have the metal roof or even a carboard roof or is there another solution I haven't thought about?
     
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    Hey buddy you tried using spray on glue from a speed shop or use thumbtacs cheers
     
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    Haha yea - its got thumbtacs in it at the mo
     
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    I replaced the head lining in my VP, so i can at least comment a little here.

    Initially i attempted to repair the sagging with an adhesive spray. This did not work well as there was too much inconsistency between the fabric and the liner. Having had some trimming experience since them i am confident i could do a succsesfull repair, but the original fabric would need to be replaced at the very least.

    So for the time being i just removed it, and drove around with the bare metal roof for about 6 months. One thing i can tell you is that it get's bloody hot !! Also it is illeagal, and can render the vehicle unroadworthy. Something to keep in mind for insurance...

    The solution for me was sourcing another lining from a wrecking yard. I found one in near perfect condition for $50. Infact by the look of it , it had been re-done by a professional at some point. A quick go over with some upholstery cleaner, and it was good as new again.

    Re-fitting is pretty straight forward, but i wouldn't attempt to do it on your own ,as you need to bend the liner to a certain point to get it through the door. Also holding it up while you attach the trim assembly can be a difficult job on your own. Best to have 2 people, a 3rd if possible. Mine was actually out of a VS, and required some slight modifications to accept the rear vision mirror, and the grab handles. This was basically just some presicely cut holes.

    The only thing i wasn't happy with, was that the centre of the lining, around the light fixture, was slightly lower over all than it was supposed to be. I beleive that there is actually an adhesive used between the lining and the metal roof itself. But only an ocd would have noticed as no body else did.....
     
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    I got my VS done a year ago, cost me $150. Long drive to get here though lol.
     
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    hi guys,i done our vn rooflining just before we sold it.we drove around for a while without it in.anyway it cost me $70 for the rooflining material and it took me about an hour to do then put back in.the glue i used was from the trimmer as i know him,he just lent me his spray gun with a full pot of glue in it as i had to do our magna at the same time.it's more or less quick grip or whatever it is you buy in the tin.obviously you have to take the actual rooflining out(cardboard) through the passsenger fron door is the easiest.it's easy to do mate so don't go paying that much when you don't have to.give it a go you will be surprised how easy it really is!!!
    cheers
     
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    I did give it ago and I f*ked it lol so I'm not really sure its worth me trying again.
     
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    We pulled ours out years ago and just run with a metal roof. Everyone asks about it and I joke that we did to lower the centre of gravity of the car. When the kids were younger we used to stick magnetic letters and numbers on the roof for them to play with.

    In hindsight we should have kept the lining as you can repair it yourself or get someone to fix it. At the time the cost of a new one from Holden was cheaper than a repaired one, but they then became obsolete.
     
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    Staple gun has kept mine up for the past 6 years. Do it in 2 minutes or draw some lines and take 20 minutes for a neat job.
     
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    pjdm1980 Shut up Jr I'm thinkin!

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    I just brought a second handy from the wreckers but it's a bit of a hit and miss thing the first one was stuffed as soon as i put it in but the second one was as good as gold but for how long who knows.
    A guy i know said just to get some marine carpet and scrub off all the foam spray on some heavy duty glue and apply the carpet said it will last for ever if this one falls down i might give it a go.
     
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    Been running a metal roof for 2 years now and loving the sound of the rain!
     
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    Yes you should bother fixing it. In NSW if you have sagging roof lining you will be defected for it, the Mrs got let off with a warning one night. So i ripped it out, used the staple gun and glued all the edges etc, been fine since, and dont just pull it off cause the foam goes EVERYWHERE including your eyes lol
     
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    I have not been game enough to ask a cop at a RBT to tell me if having no roof lining is illegal, they cant see it anyway.

    Ive never been denied rego for it tho but have been for having other trim pannles off with the reasoning being you cant have expossed wires. Since theres a single cable going to the interia light that might apply here to, cause its so dangerous i could kill myself with the 12v of POWER!

    oh and +1 on the orange foam going everywhere, if you do just want to rip it off and run cardboard take it out of the car and scrape it all off first! Or in the car if you like cleaning it.
     
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    I THink having no roof lining is illegal mischa as the cop said the roof lining is a fixture of the car and is required so he says, but i dont know where the #### some of them get these defects from, i can understand if its sagged and blocking vision but next thing you know your seat covers are to worn now have a defect lol
     
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    I replaced the lining in my VG and it looks way better now. When I brought it some dumb ass had tried to fix it with what looked like bubble gum lol. I just called my local NOLAN branch. These are the biggest upholstery suppliers in Aus and have many diffrent types and colours to choose from I kept it grey. It was pretty easy to do. One tip TAKE THE CARDBOARD OUT OF THE CAR and do it on a bench or drive way. Also use 3M glue in the can I think you can get this from Super Cheap Autos.
    I dont think its illegal to drive without it in though. Hope this helps. Matt
     
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    The 91 VN Calais is running black painted cardboard. The cloth just did not go back on very well and then just peeled off again a week later.

    painted card board it is for now.
     
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    Cant believe what you got quoted here - I had an EF done for around $150 as well - in QLD it is illegal as basically you have to have whatever interior parts that was fitted originally. Wouldn't like to roll it without it though & it would be a serious problem with insurance after an accident..
     
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    Who knows, im going to call it a black hole as to legalitys. There are road registered cars with roll cages and do you think they have roof linings?
     
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    in NSW it is illegal to not have it and it will get defected or fail a road worthy on as the exposed metal with sharp edges from the second skins are considered a hazard and dangerous. had a car failed on a pink slip a few years ago for those very reasons.
     
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    The hood lining is pretty simple 2 do and should take no longer than a couple hours 2 do. longest and hardest part is pulling all ur trims off lol and not breaking them. The most simplest way but does take longer is 2 take off the front passenger door but its not needed as u can manipulate the lining board with it still on neways.

    I used 2 do these as an 1st apprentice chippy and got sent next door 2 the upholster 2 fill in time. charged $150 4 the job u just gotta make sure u scrape off all the old glue and foam b4 u apply new contact glue. If the old foam is brittle get new hood lining otherwise the new glue wont last long either 4 obvious reasons. Dont bother with spray cans at all they either dont stick well or dont last a couple summers specially with the heat that it gets blasted from. we use contact adhesive day in day out so we have tried everything.

    As chooky said the best stuff 2 use that easy 2 get ur hands on is the quik grip stuff from bunnnings, best used in a spray can tho so u get an even coat but not needed. make sure both sides get a coat or it wont stick very well, otherwise hunt down some proper industrial contact adheasive. A roller is good 2 get a perfect result and u dont need a couple guys 2 do it use ya head and use some props 2 keep the lining away from the head board b4 u try contacting it down, once its down theres not alot u can do 2 fix it lol.
     

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