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New Commodore - 2018 First Look

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I hope the kill switch makes it into the final interior design.
 

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Looks to me like the used Commodore market will he hot for good quality used ones since real Commodores will be no longer available.
 

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I'm buggered if I can understand what the objection to using the Commodore name on the new car is.

"Commodore" was never a Holden nameplate - we all know the VB was a heavily re-engineered mix of German Kommodore and Senator models and the name itself originated in Germany. It wasn't until the VE that any German engineering or design influence disappeared - every previous Commodore was based on the Opel equivalent model.

Anyway, it's of no matter really. The Commodore will never again be a significant model on the Austalian market, because it's a five door largish sedan and we all know that Australians don't want such cars in large numbers anymore. It will just be a niche model, selling to fleets and a diminishing number of private buyers.
 

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I'm buggered if I can understand what the objection to using the Commodore name on the new car is.

"Commodore" was never a Holden nameplate - we all know the VB was a heavily re-engineered mix of German Kommodore and Senator models and the name itself originated in Germany. It wasn't until the VE that any German engineering or design influence disappeared - every previous Commodore was based on the Opel equivalent model.

Anyway, it's of no matter really. The Commodore will never again be a significant model on the Austalian market, because it's a five door largish sedan and we all know that Australians don't want such cars in large numbers anymore. It will just be a niche model, selling to fleets and a diminishing number of private buyers.

Exactly right , it's only the last two models VE and VF that were all Australian , they were until then based on a dated German Opel design and slightly tweaked for Australian and NZ conditions .
 

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Exactly right , it's only the last two models VE and VF that were all Australian , they were until then based on a dated German Opel design and slightly tweaked for Australian and NZ conditions .

As somebody who was driving Holdens long before the Commodore was created, I can recall that there was no stink when the Kingswood name died. They did run ads saying that it was going out of production but by then, few people cared because the new Commodore was going gang-busters. Likewise the Torana name. It's more highly regarded now than it was when in production.

Names come and go. Not so long ago, members here were having hissy-fits because the Commodore Coupe was going to be called Monaro.
 

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Exactly right , it's only the last two models VE and VF that were all Australian , they were until then based on a dated German Opel design and slightly tweaked for Australian and NZ conditions .
Rather than slightly tweaked, they were made even more dated ... dunno what was in a Rekord, but doubt it can have been as archaic as the 3300/2850!

The objection to using the Commodore name is because it's a dumb move.
People with an interest in RWD &/or V8eyness are going to be turned-off by the fact the Insignia is neither; even if in the market for a Camry, people of that mindset won't even bother to test-drive an Insignia with a Commodore badge (whereas they might if it was badged Insignia).
People with little interest in cars at all will equate the Commodore name with the archaic backwards mechanicals & interiors & equipment that the Commodore name has stood-for until VF; so they'll also discount a Commodore-badged Insignia without driving one, too.

2001 Pontiac GTO, anyone?
 

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Rather than slightly tweaked, they were made even more dated ... dunno what was in a Rekord, but doubt it can have been as archaic as the 3300/2850!

The objection to using the Commodore name is because it's a dumb move.
People with an interest in RWD &/or V8eyness are going to be turned-off by the fact the Insignia is neither; even if in the market for a Camry, people of that mindset won't even bother to test-drive an Insignia with a Commodore badge (whereas they might if it was badged Insignia).
People with little interest in cars at all will equate the Commodore name with the archaic backwards mechanicals & interiors & equipment that the Commodore name has stood-for until VF; so they'll also discount a Commodore-badged Insignia without driving one, too.

2001 Pontiac GTO, anyone?

Reckford was more for Autobahn blasting , I've driven the Holden Igsignia VXR and it's not too bad , die hard rear drive fanboy's will disagree and all power to them .
 
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