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Safe ways to work under car?

Discussion in 'VE Holden Commodore (2006 - 2013)' started by Dynamic Dazz, Mar 16, 2017.

  1. Dynamic Dazz

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    I have a ve wagon and was wondering if this is a safe way to lift car and work underneath.......Drive front wheels onto ramps then jack up rear putting axle stands underneath

    Edit....just thought maybe better to drive the back wheels up on ramps so handbrake will work

    Dazz
     
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    Jack up front, axle stands.
    Jack up rear, axle stands.
     
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    I better buy another pair then....thanks

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    uniacidz Harden the Frak Up

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    Ramps fine as well.

    I either ramps up front or rear, usually rear and stands on the front and also the jack

    Getting my car on ramps for the front being lowered vehicle is a hassle even with a brick at front of ramps to help with clearance, always find i push the ramp forward even if i have rubber/cardboard/material on under the ramps
     
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    Personally I prefer to use axle stands on all 4 corners......Front 2 stands, under the chassis section, near the A-pillar.....The rear stands, under the lower control arms, or the control arm mounts
     
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    I have holes drilled in garage floor, tent pegs go in hole and the ramp sits up against the pegs stopping them sliding

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    Often wondered how safe it would be to make stands out of three 75mm thick sleepers the wheelbase lengths on top of each other each side of car with ramps at the front staggering the sleepers to form a ramp
     
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    uniacidz Harden the Frak Up

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    love to, but renting
     
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    I know a couple people that do this, but there is something about this setup, where I would never feel right about going under the car.
     
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    I can understand you may have apprehensions about my method, but I have had the pleasure of a car on my head before today and I feel really safe underneath a car like this
     
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    uniacidz Harden the Frak Up

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    4 Stands is ok

    Had a friend actually ask me about what i did under the car and something she said made me think about stands, hence why my preferred method myself is ramps on two wheels and stands for the front or vice versa.

    In southwest Sydney and we had a earthquake not long ago and thinking about it, would the stands have been enough or would it have come crashing down, or what if one failed, would all then move off the stands and fall down.

    Or what if someone tripped on a tool and their full weight went straight into the raised vehicle on the stands.

    So decided to use my ramps more as they handle 750kg per side and also steady and now setup in a way where i can easily deploy them if needed.

    For me, a combo of ramps and stands and even a jack if needed.
     
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    Why do you need all 4 wheels off the ground so often?
    Must admit I live on a slope so it's not possible to have car on 4 stands at once but I rarely miss them.
     
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    Fek, I dont feel comfortable putting a 2+tonne vehicle on something made of wood that's that thin...

    +1
     
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    I had/have this problem with my BA Ford even though it's not lowered. One day I grabbed a couple of bits of scrap 4" by 2" about 700mm long and put them on the ground and onto each ramp about a third of the way up. I just drove the car onto the 4" by 2" and continued onto the ramps no problem. (It's a good thing not to throw out all your scrap wood!!)
     
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    If running stands all round make sure yiu watch the tilt on the othher end while jacking up to sit the second end up .

    I myself always put stands not where the jacking point is lol usually on front control arms or the crossmember. And on rear control arms, the main subframe bolt on vp-vz rears (unsure if ve same havent been under one) or cupping a solid diff on solid rear axle cars.

    I then shake the absolute fcuk out of it forwards backwards sideways trying to push it off the stands. If it doesnt move ill happily crawl under it. I on average spend 15-20 hours a week under cars help up like this. Never had a car fall once.
     
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    I want to service the auto
     
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    Over the years, many people who considered their precautions adequate, whilst working under their vehicle(s), have met their end. Body most likely completely squashed, head crushed, limbs severed. Think about the risks before 'cutting corners'. If you cannot do it safely, then let the 'professionals' with the correct equipment, do the job. Good luck.
     
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    Using stands even on 1 end can be fraught with the potential of them coming down on you, even with the ways you have mentioned. Unfortunately, there is no absolute 100% guaranteed way to have 4 wheels of a car off the deck and not have the potential risk of a car coming down on you.....There is always the "idiot" factor that can't be accounted for, or the failure of equipment.

    I will add, in no way am I saying you're an idiot.....By the idiot factor, I am referring to leaving tools out where someone can trip on them, or a person that leans on a car whilst it is up in the air, or even with a car on the hoist, the catch not being released properly because some idiot is too busy gas bagging causing the car to tip off the hoist onto some unsuspecting by stander.

    The equipment failure can range from a stand breaking to a hoist cable breaking, allowing the car coming crashing to the ground...

    So all we can do is, weigh up the options put forward as suitable methods and pick the option we feel safe using.
     

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