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Spigot Bush Question

Discussion in 'VR - VS Holden Commodore (1993 - 1997)' started by Chris E, May 21, 2009.

  1. Chris E

    Chris E New Member

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    Hey all

    Currently in the process of converting my auto vr v6 to a manual because I'm sick of auto and it starting a fire was the last straw lol:ranting:.

    I'm not a mechanic and have only learnt what dad has taught me so bear with me lol.

    My question is to do with the the spigot in the crank, I got a manual spigot bush off the fellas at autobarn and it looks like it will fit nicely into the crank but I want to make doubly sure that this is how it works. I didn't have to remove anything from the crank when I took the auto box out.

    I'm thinking the manual spigot just goes straight in? looks like a nice snug fit but want to make 100% sure.

    Have attached a picture of the crank as it is at the moment.
     

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    Chirpstr A new project attack

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    Your on the right track mate. Or you need to do is put that brass metal spigot in with a little bit of grease. Use a socket and a hammer to get it in.
     
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    The crank weather it's and auto or manual are the same. Tap the bush in with the correct tool if you have one for bushes. If not gently do it with an extension bar. A bit of locktight can be rubbed on the outside of the bush for piece of mind but is not really necessary. I small dob of grease on the end of your finger can be rubbed inside the bush. Don't put to much grease in there and get carried away as you don't want grease on the clutch face.

    The important thing is to tap the bush in evenly ie..top/bottom/left side/right side....slowly millimetre by millimetre. If you don't put it in straight you will have trouble when your trying to line the box up when fitting.

    have fun hope your doing this on a houst but I guess your doing in the garage on your back LOL.
     
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    word of warning don't use grease on a brass spigot bearing they are made of a porous brass and have tiny pockets of oil in them to self lubricate.
    If you put grease on it sometimes it will burn and start to sqeal just use a little bit of engine oil is all you need.
     
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    Clubby you.

    ..I haven't heard that before. What do you think of a small bit of copper grease. I just don't like the idea of leaving them dry.
     
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    Chirpstr A new project attack

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    I've never had a problem with mine. I think you guys have a different spigot being a vs.
     
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    i just use a bit of engine oil is fine until it starts self lubricating
     
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    Thanks for your quick replies guys should be all sweet now.

    And Radarboy Yep i'm doing it in the shed on my back lol.

    Tapping it in with a socket thats the same method as the bearing on the my sigmas flywheel then, to easy.

    Can't wait to be 5 speed :yeah:
     
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    its silicon bronze and wont need any lube as said above its in the material its made of
     
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    Everywhere i read said to lubricate the bush. I just used some high temp L80 grease.
     
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    social Ute Finatic

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    the type of metal the bush is means it will pull in the oil (which is the point of lubricating) and when it gets how it will "sweat the oil" which makes for a good lubricant during use..
     
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    when i did my conversion i left the spigot bush soak in a tub of fresh tranny fluid for a couple of days and it went in nice and easy and ive never had trouble
     
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    Reaper Tells it like it is.

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    I have always put just an ever so slight smear of high temp grease on the spigot bush and tapped it in with the handle end of a hammer (or at the very least cushion it with a piece of wood). Don't go metal on metal as the bush is very soft and will damage easily.

    Reaper
     
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    Late reply i know, but is it trans oil that is used to lubricate the bush ?
     
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    I wouldn't use trans oil as it's too thin - use HT grease like Reaper suggests...just a touch. In theory they come prelubricated unlike the old days where you had to soak them overnight.
     
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    Awesome thread i was just about to post the exact same thread about whether the bush is suppose to fit in there nicely or if its gotter be tapped in.. I put a new spigot bush in my ecotec tonight and had to tap it in cause it woulnt just slide in.. I guess i got my answer. I used high temp wheel bearing grease is this ok??

    P.S Thanks Chris E saved me doing it.. :)
     
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    If you buy the bush from holden it will be in a plastic bag that has a smear of oil all over the inside from touching the bearing but whatever is used as long as it is a lubricant it will be ok...I also soaked the last one overnight in oil to make sure......the only drama I had with the spigot was that the 2 times that I have replaced my clutch the spigot bearing has spun in the crank and was loose and it came out with my hands...so the last time I loctited it in
     
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    i got my from bursons auto parts and it came in a little packet with tiny bit of oil in it.. oh ok awesome so i made a good decision to jam it in there with a hammer.. thought i was being a little dodgey haha
     

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