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Discussion in 'General' started by Turd Ferguson, Aug 6, 2011.

  1. Turd Ferguson

    Turd Ferguson Mandatory Fun!

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    Rules and regulations that cover most questions that get asked on this forum regarding Provisional drivers.

    N.S.W P Plater Information and Restrictions

    How do I get my P1 driver licence?

    P1 drivers must:

    Have P plates (red P on white background) displayed conspicuously at the front and rear exterior of the car when driving. The letter P on the plate must not be hidden. If towing a trailer, a P plate must be on the back of the trailer.
    Not exceed zero blood alcohol concentration (this means you cannot drink before driving). It is also illegal to drive under the influence of drugs.
    Observe a maximum speed limit of 90 km/h.
    Observe towing restrictions (you are only allowed to tow light trailers of up to 250 kilograms unloaded weight).
    Automatic transmission vehicles – You are restricted to driving an automatic or clutchless manual transmission vehicle if tested in one.
    Not supervise a learner driver.
    Not upgrade the licence to a higher class.
    If aged under 25, you may only carry one passenger under the age of 21 between 11pm and 5am.
    Only carry the number of passengers that can be properly seated in seats and restrained by approved seat belts or child restraints.
    Only drive vehicles that have a seat belt fitted to the driver's position and you must wear the seat belt.
    Not use any functions of a mobile phone including hands-free devices.
    Not drive certain prohibited vehicles.

    How do I get my P2 driver licence?

    P2 licence holders must:

    Have P plates (green P on a white background) displayed conspicuously at the front and rear exterior of the car when driving. The letter P on the plate must not be hidden. If towing a trailer, a P plate must be on the back of the trailer.
    Not exceed zero blood alcohol concentration (this means you cannot drink before driving). It is illegal to drive under the influence of drugs.
    Observe a maximum speed limit of 100 km/h.
    Not supervise a learner driver.
    Only carry the number of passengers that can be properly seated in seats and restrained by approved seat belts or child restraints.
    Only drive vehicles that have a seat belt fitted to the driver's position and you must wear the seat belt.
    Not drive certain prohibited vehicles.

    Vehicle and passenger conditions for P1 and P2 licence holders

    Prohibited vehicles are those with:

    Eight or more cylinders (except diesel).
    A turbocharged engine (except diesel).
    A supercharged engine (except diesel).
    Engine performance modifications that require an engineers' certificate.
    Certain high performance six cylinder engine vehicles or other vehicles as described in the publication Novice Drivers - High Performance Vehicle Restrictions.

    A.C.T P Plate Restrictions and Information

    Road Ready ACT Home Page

    You must be at least 17 years of age and have held a learner licence for a minimum of 6 months before being able to obtain a provisional driver licence.

    There are two methods you can use to get your provisional driver licence:

    1. The Competency Based Training and Assessment Scheme (CBT&A), which uses a logbook system through an Accredited Driving Instructor.
    2. Take a practical driving test with an ACT Government Licence Examiner.
    You will be on a provisional driver licence for 3 years and must display a 'P' plate for this period - unless you take the optional Road Ready Plus (P..off) course after six months or more on a provisional driver licence.

    During the 3 year provisional licence period your Alcohol Concentration (BAC) must be zero. So do not drink alcohol if you are intending to drive.

    Q.L.D P Plate Restrictions and Information.

    Provisional licence (Department of Transport and Main Roads)

    When driving while you hold a provisional licence you:

    must comply with the no alcohol limit (0.00). Drink driving offences carry monetary fines and disqualification periods.
    must not drive under the influence of illegal or prescription drugs
    must carry your provisional licence with you and show it to a police officer when asked to do so
    must obey any conditions stated on your provisional licence or restrictions attached to your licence
    may only drive or ride the class of vehicle stated on your provisional licence
    may learn to drive or ride a higher class of vehicle than the class stated on your provisional licence, once issued a learner licence for that class of vehicle (Note: A provisional licence holder must not teach a learner licence holder to drive or ride a vehicle. Only an open licence holder is authorised to teach a learner driver or rider).

    Restrictions (Department of Transport and Main Roads)

    P-plates

    You must clearly display red P-plates on the front and rear of your car (rear only for motorbikes).

    Mobile phone

    You must not use your mobile phone while driving, including the hands-free functions and Bluetooth accessories.

    Your passengers are banned from using mobile phones on the loudspeaker function.

    Passengers

    Only one passenger under 21 years of age (excluding immediate family members) may travel with you between 11pm on a day and 5am on the next day.

    High-powered (performance) vehicles

    You are not allowed to drive high-powered (performance) vehicles.
    High-powered (performance) vehicle restriction (Department of Transport and Main Roads)

    High-powered (performance) vehicle restrictions apply for the duration of P1 and P2 licence periods for licence holders under the age of 25 years.

    These restrictions also apply to probationary licence holders who return from a disqualification to a P1 or P2 probationary licence, where at the time of the offence they were under 25 years of age. These limits apply for the duration of the probationary period regardless of age.

    High-powered (performance) vehicles include those with:

    eight or more cylinders
    a turbo-charged or super-charged engine that is not diesel powered
    an engine that has a power output of more than 200 kW as per the manufacturer's specifications
    a rotary engine that has an engine capacity of more than 1146cc as per the manufacturer's specifications
    a modified engine that must be approved under section 13 of the Transport Operations (Road Use Management — Vehicle Standards and Safety) Regulation 2010.
    The following vehicles are exempt and can be driven:

    Suzuki Cappuccino 2D Cabriolet Turbo 3 657-698cc (1992-1997)
    Daihatsu Copen L880 2D Convertible Turbo 4 659cc (2003 or later)
    Smart fortwo coupe 2D Turbo 3 698cc (2000 or later)
    Smart fortwo Cabriolet Turbo 3 2D 698cc (2000 or later)
    Smart Roadster Turbo 3 2D 698cc (2000 or later).
    Check your vehicle's power specifications on the vehicle manufacturer's website, or a car guide website.

    Victoria P Plate Info

    P plates & probationary prohibited vehicles : VicRoads

    Lower perfomance turbo or supercharged vehicles : VicRoads

    Peer passenger restriction : VicRoads

    P1 and P2 Probationary licence restrictions : VicRoads

    Probationary vehicle database : VicRoads
     
  2. Turd Ferguson

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    W.A P Plate restricitions

    Once you are grated a provisional licence you will be on P plates for two years and the following rules and conditions apply:
    You must display your P plates at all times when driving
    You must have a zero blood alcohol level at all times when driving
    Committing certain driving offences as a P-plater could mean you automatically lose your licence
    You cannot drive between 12am-5am for the first 6 months after you have first become a P plater. For this period you will need to display red P plates. After the first six (6) months, you will be able to drive at any time of day and you will need to display green P plates. There are certain exemptions concerning these conditions.

    Night time driving restrictions
    Driving between midnight and 5:00am is prohibited for the first 6 months of your provisional licence.
    If you drive between these hours when you are restricted to do so you will be deemed to be an unlicensed driver.
    This means:
    You will be issued an infringement notice and penalised (see traffic infringement penalties)
    You will accrue 2 demerit points.

    S.A P Plate restrictions

    http://mylicence.sa.gov.au/p1_plater

    Provisional licence conditions
    You can only drive the class of vehicle stated on your provisional licence, under the following conditions:

    You must not drive a motor vehicle with any concentration of alcohol in your blood or the presence of cannabis, speed or MDMA (ecstasy) in your blood or oral saliva.
    You must display P-plates so that they’re clearly visible from the front & rear of the car. (P2 drivers do not need to display P-plates) Motorcycles, back only.
    A speeding offence of 10 km/h or more over the speed limit is also a breach of your provisional licence conditions.

    Other rules…
    You must carry your provisional licence at all times whilst driving.
    You must not exceed the 100 km/h speed limit, at all.
    You must not accumulate four or more demerit points during the provisional licence period.
    You must not drive a high-powered vehicle while you are under the age of 25 until you get your full driver’s licence (unless you have an exemption certificate).
    You must not use any mobile phone function while driving, including:
    Hands-free mode and Bluetooth technology
    Loud speaker operation
    Text messaging.


    Heads up!
    P1 drivers who use any type of mobile phone function while driving face an on-the-spot fine and will incur three demerit points.


    Breaking the rules
    If you break any of the P-rules you could get a fine, demerit points, be disqualified from driving or have to go to court.

    If you get any demerit points while under 19 years of age, you’ll need to hold the provisional licence until you’re at least 20.

    If you break your provisional licence conditions or gain four or more demerit points, you’ll lose your licence for at least six months… and when you return to driving you’ll have to go back to;
    Re-apply for a learner’s permit and
    Pass a practical driving test again (VORT or CBT or Advanced RiderSafe for motorbikes)
    Curfew for serious disqualification.

    Safer Driver Agreement
    If you are disqualified you may elect to enter into a Safer Driver Agreement instead of serving the 6 month disqualification period (unless it was a serious disqualification offence).

    The Safer Driver Agreement will apply for the duration of your provisional licence.


    Serious heads up!
    If you breach the Safer Driver Agreement you will be disqualified for twice the period of your original disqualification (12 months). You must sit out the disqualification. No Safer Driver Agreements. No appeals.


    Serious disqualification offences
    You’ll get a curfew condition for 12 months with your next licence. No driving from 12:00 am to 5:00 am without a Qualified Supervising Driver seated beside you and it will also mean no other passengers can travel with you.

    Serious disqualification offences include:

    criminal driving offences e.g. causing death by dangerous driving
    an offence that incurs four or more demerit points
    a second speeding offence that incurs three or more demerit points
    a red light offence and a speeding offence from the same incident
    any offence committed by a person previously disqualified from driving.

    http://mylicence.sa.gov.au/p2_plater

    You can only drive the class of vehicle stated on your provisional licence, under the following conditions;
    You must not drive a motor vehicle with any concentration of alcohol in your blood or the presence of cannabis, speed or MDMA (ecstasy) in your blood or oral saliva.
    P-plates – not required for P2 drivers.
    A speeding offence of 10 km/h or more over the speed limit is also a breach of your provisional licence conditions.

    Other rules;
    You must carry your provisional licence at all times whilst driving.
    You must not exceed the 100 km/h speed limit, at all.
    You must not accumulate four or more demerit points during the provisional licence period.
    If you got your P1 licence after 4 September 2010, you must not drive a high powered vehicle whilst you are under the age of 25 until you get your full driver’s licence, unless you have an exemption certificate.

    Breaking the rules
    If you break any of the P2 rules you could get a fine, demerit points, be disqualified from driving or have to go to court.

    If you get any demerit points while under 19 years of age, you’ll need to hold the provisional licence until you’re at least 20.

    If you break your provisional licence conditions or gain four or more demerit points, you’ll lose your licence for at least six months… and when you return to driving you’ll have to go back to;
    re-apply for a P1 provisional licence and
    pass a hazard perception test again.
    If you return to driving a P1 provisional licence and you are under the age of 25, you must not drive a high-powered vehicle unless you have an exemption certificate.

    Safer Driver Agreement
    If you are disqualified you may elect to enter into a Safer Driver Agreement instead of serving the six month disqualification (unless it was a serious disqualification offence).

    The Safer Driver Agreement will apply for the duration of your provisional licence. If you breach your licence conditions or accumulate four or more demerit points again;

    you will be disqualified for 12 months (twice the original disqualification period)
    you must serve the disqualification - you cannot appeal to the Court
    if you are a P2 licence holder you will regress back to a P1 licence when you are eligible to drive again
    you will not be eligible to apply for another Safer Driver Agreement for the next five years.



    Serious heads up!
    If you breach the Safer Driver Agreement you will be disqualified for 12 months. You must sit out the disqualification. No Safer Driver Agreements. No appeals.


    Serious disqualification offences
    You’ll get a curfew condition for 12 months with your next licence. No driving from 12:00am to 5:00am without a Qualified Supervising Driver seated beside you and it will also mean no other passengers can travel with you.

    Serious disqualification offences include;
    criminal offences e.g. causing death by dangerous driving
    an offence that incurs four or more demerit points
    a second speeding offence that incurs three or more demerit points
    a red light offence and a speeding offence from the same incident
    any offence committed by a person, previously disqualified from driving.

    Tas P Plate restrictions


    http://www.transport.tas.gov.au/novice/p1/car__motorcycle/drive_safely__and__legally

    ALWAYS display your P-plates on the front and back of the car or for a motorcycle on the back

    NEVER drive over 80 km/h (even when speed limit signs display a higher limit)

    NEVER drive with ANY alcohol in your body

    If you break this law, you'll have to appear in Court to face a Magistrate who will impose a penalty - the minimum penalty is losing your licence and paying a fine, and you'll have to start the P1 stage all over again

    ALWAYS carry your licence when driving

    If you break this law, you'll have to pay a fine

    http://www.transport.tas.gov.au/novice/p2
    NEVER drive with ANY alcohol in your body

    If you break this law, you'll have to appear in Court to face a Magistrate who will impose a penalty - the minimum penalty is losing your licence and paying a fine and your time in the P2 stage will be extended

    Remember, if you lose 4 demerit points, you lose your novice licence

    If you show that you aren't responsible enough to make safe, legal driving choices by losing your P2 licence twice, then you'll be sent back to the P1 stage. You'll then have to hold a P1 licence for another 12 continuous months and pay the licence fees again, see novice penalties for further information.
     
  3. Grennan

    Grennan Slayer of Stupid Threads

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    Stickied.
     
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    i like how you just do links for the vic p platers

    now just include all p plate illegal mods!

    good writeup though
     
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    Just wanna add, SA p platers who got there P's before 4th of September can drive 'high powered vehicles'
     
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    kcpwns Kicker - Livin' Loud :)

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    Damn only links for vic??
    Just like those damn pop up whore ads...Gotta click to see more.
     
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  9. Drawnnite

    Drawnnite Obviously Unsensible

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    sent an email to the NSW RTA to clear up a law that many seem to get wrong.
    this being interstate P Platers in NSW. this is directly from the RTA. and has also been confirmed by a NSW policeman.
    hope this does help all those affected.


    Interstate drivers wanting to drive in NSW should read the RTA Road Users' Handbook or the Motorcycle Rider's Handbook, as applicable. These are available from any motor registry, or via the RTA website RTA Home Page.

    Drivers from interstate should also comply with any condition or restriction applicable to their interstate licence when driving in NSW. For example, if a Victorian licence holder is required to wear spectacles or contact lenses while driving, then he or she should also adhere to that condition or restriction while driving on NSW roads.

    Learner licence holders from other States or Territories must not exceed 80 km/h when driving in NSW. As an example, learner and provisional licence holders from the ACT may drive at the posted speed limit when driving in the ACT. However, when driving on NSW roads, an ACT learner licence holder is restricted to a maximum speed of 80 km/h. This is because NSW road transport law states that 'The holder of a learner licence must not drive a motor vehicle on a road at a speed in excess of 80 km/h'. Under NSW law, a 'learner licence' is defined to include a learner licence issued in another Australian state or territory. For more information on interstate learner drivers using NSW roads please see the below link:

    Information for interstate learner drivers using NSW roads

    The position with visiting provisional drivers from the ACT is different. As the relevant NSW road transport law is specific to NSW provisional licence holders with respect to the special speed limits that apply (i.e. 90 km/h for P1's and 100 km/h for P2's), an ACT provisional licence holder may also drive at the sign-posted speed limit when driving on NSW roads.

    However, the position with visiting provisional drivers from other Australian States or Territories may differ depending on any licence conditions or restrictions that apply to the driver in their home state or territory. In this regard, it is in the driver's best interests to comply with any condition or restriction applicable to their interstate licence when driving in NSW to avoid any dispute with police officers or insurance providers should they be involved in an accident.
     
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    i have a question for all of you.. i live in NSW during the holidays but got to boarding school in SA...so i can get either drivers licence.. i just bought a VY S ute, and i have a NSW P plate licence, but im allready over the 90km/h shit and the p's on the outside so im thinking about changing my licecne to SA so i can put p's on the inside and go 100km/h and TOW a reasonable trailer if needed. Just one question tho i normally drive my ute from boarding school back to nsw does this mean if i do get me SA P plates will i need to stop when i get to NSW and put my p's on the outside and go back to 90km/h or can i just sit on 100 and if i get pulled over pull the im from SA i didnt know trick any thoughts. my ute also has extractors on it but its not loud at all its a bit noiser than stock whats the best state to get away with small things like that in......... NSW P's or SA P's cheers
     
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    Regardless of where your P plate is from you still have to follow the law of the state/teritory you are in. It's about time this country was a country and not a bunch of separate colonies with separate laws. We need 1 licencing system to stop the confusion.
     
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    Drawnnite Obviously Unsensible

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    if you do have your SA Probationary licence then you follow those rules when in NSW.
    so you can do the limit, tow and the works.
    it is only if you are a learner that then drives into NSW that you have to follow their laws (which is 80kph max)

    basically.
    whatever restrictions you are on in SA, is what you follow in NSW.
    (read up on post #9, which is the exact reply i got from the NSW RTA when i wanted to know the exact same thing)


    100% wrong and incorrect.
    trust me. i didnt go to a huge hassle to win an arguement with someone over this exact issue to be wrong. and i drive up into NSW a fair bit
    which included speaking to Vicroads, NSW RTA and the NSW police force.
    and i still have the copy of the exact message around as proof if people do not want to believe that. (most of which is posted in post #9 on here)
    but i do agree. they need 1 licence system, but none of this limit speed crap. 80kph in a 110 zone is 3/4 of the speed. thats a bloody huge speed gap. and dangerous.
    however yes you are semi right about the law of the state. you still have to follow their speed limit signs. roadworks signs and all that. =P
     
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    F****K the stupid rules every time you ring up the idiots they give you a different answer i rang up RTA about it and they said i follow there rules i rang up SA and they tell me if i have a SA licence i stay with the SA rules. all these different rules in different states its all a load of sh** there needs to be one set of rules for the whole of Australia.
     
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    Drawnnite Obviously Unsensible

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    you do go by your own states laws and restrictions while on your probationary licence
    it is only Interstate Learners that have to comply with the NSW version of the laws/restrictions
    some people are the RTA/Vicroads etc dont always have the best idea =P
    if in doubt contact the NSW police. as they would be the ones actually pulling you up if they think you're in the wrong.

    and if you still dont believe me.
    that was the answer i also recieved from the NSW police (in which case these ones work on the NSW/VIC border).
    you follow your own states laws.
     
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    WazzaVN Wazza VN

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    The laws are getting pretty ridiculous. What happened to the power to weight ratio? A law that actually made sense. Soon you won't even be able to drive on your p1's, you'll just have to sit, look at your car for a year and think about driving responsibly.
     
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    Just Double Checking. In NSW. A P Plater can buy and register a V8 Commodore. Have green slip Insurance? And drive it on private property. And be a passenger in it on roads? Can he have Insurance for it?
     
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    Pretty sure you can get ctp and insurence as I had a super6 with a few months left on my P's ctp was harder to get though and insurence was ridiculously overpriced.


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