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VW Vs EPA drama ?

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by Skydrol, Sep 24, 2015.

  1. mpower

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    Problem really is that VW should have told regulators about it I guess, just looks like they were hiding it.
     
  2. Rajesh Koothrappali

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    I'd hide such innovation too. Wouldn't want others copying it. :D
     
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    Reaper Tells it like it is.

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    VW have denied any wrongdoing with their 6cyl engines
     
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    USEPA think otherwise!
     
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    Noeleter; that Quartz website is a propagandist website. Check out the adds, that will give some clues of the targeted audience. The author is a very shady character. Just not trusting the source.

    In my opinion this debate of Alarmists Vs Deniers it had a feel of a religion. Just like Apple products, a mere cult. One side Vs the other, just like sports game.

    One thing about science is the constant debunking. Real Scientist like to argue that each other are wrong. If someone made a discovery, another will like to duplicate the results to see if is correct or not.

    On this case, is more about if you are NOT a believer, you will be persecuted and hung. Just like a Church.

    Just an example...

    If I say, proof God's existence right now at this moment. I will be persecuted to no end for been an atheist, a non believer. We have been told and drilled of God's existence. But what about other people that have different believes? What about the ones that base their believe in hard data? The generic/broad name for them is Pagan. They need to be converted to save their souls and make the believers feel better for their good deed.

    To me, the whole Climate Change is pretty much a cult of believers driven by Con Artists with one thing in mind, money, an lots of it. Just like many churches using the name of the lord in vane, scaring them all to fill their pockets with donations.

    Is interesting how it ties to the Bible and fear mongering preachers.
    Floods (rising sea levels), Pestilence (Ebola?), Fire and Brimstone (burn in hell with global warming), Insects that will eat all the crops, etc...

    So... funny enough, the German Pagans are paying the price for proving the EPA test is bogus and proves nothing; just a formality to get a certificate.

    Here some to fight that religion with some hard cold evidence from one of their many ministries of truth...

    Antartic Sea Ice Reaches New Record Maximum, so NASA said on their very own website. I guess we are all going to Freeze Burn. Read the article, even with physical evidence, they still trying to support the warming part. Apparently, this behavior does not fit the computer model/predictions.

    Anyway, blame the cheating Germans.
     
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    Regardless of the website, the investigation is real. Not making any comment other than that.
     
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    So what you say about NASA, is a reputable source?

    According to them, the South Pole is down (bottom of the earth) and we all know that cold air sits at the bottom and warmer air rises to the top of the earth. That is why the North Pole is melting and the South Pole is freezing.

    Yes is a joke based on convection; I think a pretty good sarcastic remark.

    Is all VW's fault and they need to pay.
     
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    They have admitted to fraud, so yes that about sums it up.
     
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    That is right; we want reparations for crimes against humanity and the planet.

    Before we going to Wolfsburg (VW HQ), let me grab the pitch fork and all get on the solar powered Kombi !


    Came to realize, Wolfsburg means Wolf's Castle or Wolves Castle, which one is, not sure. But is a take to Wolfenstein Castle ? That was a pretty cool online game called Enemy Territory based on Wolfenstein Castle. Sorry for going on a tangent... dam VW, cheaters.
     
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    I take it marijuana is legal where you are Skydrol?
     
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    You can agree or disagree with what's behind it all you want, it changes nothing.

    Car manufacturers have a standard to attain and agree to, they failed in that from an engineering standpoint so to gain an unfair advantage in the market they cheated, then they promoted themselves on the back of environmental cred they just didn't have. On top of that they brazenly went ahead and claimed tax credits as well based off those falsified credentials.

    It's a failure on every level from them.

    It's black and white nothing more, nothing less.

    The environmental impact debate is a totally separate issue and completely irrelevant.
     
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    Yes you are right and is very easy to go off on tangent with this types of discussions. Still saying, they passed the test and got certified. What VW did was to proved the test is BS. Just bureaucratic red tape to get a certificate.

    Is all about money and many other things.
    Autoblog Report

     
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    This is a shit that refuse to die... I mentioned the Dyson Vacuum Cleaners/Hoover company going after Bosch for lying on their test on electric motors. Now the EPA hounds are after Bosch because the PCM is made by them, therefore, the software is coded by them.

    EPA Investigating Bosch

    This is like one big floater in your toilet; does not matter how many times you flush, still bobbing up.

    Victoria Nuland cannot say it any better "F-u-c-k the EU'.
     
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    Except for the massive amount of grey area that surrounds the whole debacle, you're correct.
     
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    After sucking up VW's money....

    Volkswagen Expected to Pay Another $1 Billion in Emissions Scandal




    EPA: Fiat Chrysler software enabled emissions cheating


    The witch hunt continues......
     
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    Look at all the people who are trying to block off the EGR nowadays, one idiot came to me yesterday ranting a whole load of BS about EGR.
    If you live in the big city, it's just a responsible thing to look after all the ADR emission laws, it's just about servicing things correctly and putting up with the added cost. end of story.

    With all the VW load of BS that the media carried on about is just truly madness, the bloody things were clean as, but they just did not meet the madness of the standards set nowadays, and that's what has become a sad joke that's gone to far.
     

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