parcel shelf

[VKCOMMO]

hey

was looking at the my vk today and realised that the parcel shelf is really sh!t. its like all rusty.. can this be replaced and how.

thanks

[vkberlina]

I made one out of MDF and covered t in carpet

If your afterone I think have another MDF one somewhee identical to mine withot the carpet

[VKCOMMO]

so its not illegal?? ive heard in my other thread its illegal to modify it??

thanks

[Tom_1569]

Its illegal to modify the metal bracing underneath the cardbord.

I made mine out of 12mm MDF, someone on another forum said he liked it and would like a trace of it, which I supplied free of charge being nice and saving someone else the hardyards. It can now be bought on Ebay for 20bux a plan (piece of paper you trace on to your MDF to cut around.)

[VKCOMMO]

hey.. do you have any pics tom_1569?? also do you have a plan that can save me all the ebay crap..

thanks

also when i said rusted i tool a closer look and its just paint come off but it still looks crap.. am gonna do the MDF one

[ari666]

if your parcel shelf is rusty, then your window seals will be rusty too.

better give your car to me

[DANNY8]

Why pay 20 bux for a template off ebay...just pull ya rear seat out and make a cardboard template of ur own. That 20 bux saved can go towards a slab of beer!

[VKCOMMO]

Even know I'm only 15 and that would be highly illegal

[DANNY8]

Wat would be highly illegal?

[ari666]

kiddies are NOT allowed to play with cars... its the law... or something


didnt you know?? :P

[VKCOMMO]

I mean buying and consuming alcohol

[DANNY8]

Ah ok....if only all underage drinkers took it seriously. I work at a 24hr servo, and see more drunk 13/14 year olds then people who are over 18.

[Goon]

Wow for a 15 year old u have alot of cars... do what danny said but spend it on ginger ale

[VKCOMMO]

Wow for a 15 year old u have alot of cars... do what danny said but spend it on ginger ale

how about coke with a 5% discount from work.. yay!!!

[Tom_1569]

hey.. do you have any pics tom_1569?? also do you have a plan that can save me all the ebay crap..

thanks

also when i said rusted i tool a closer look and its just paint come off but it still looks crap.. am gonna do the MDF one

Ill dig up pictures later, if i can find them, my computer ran out of smoke recently so until I top it up with more smoke, its all no go.

Why pay 20 bux for a template off ebay...just pull ya rear seat out and make a cardboard template of ur own. That 20 bux saved can go towards a slab of beer!

The standard ones ares to large when using MDF, you have to trim it down to make the MDF fit in, not a hard job just time consuming. Also the awesome one on ebay had it made so 6 X 9's fitted perfectly over the standard holes with no cutting of the metal.

[ari666]

my computer ran out of smoke recently so until I top it up with more smoke, its all no go.

awesome, just awesome.

whats the going rate for computer smoke nowadays anyway

[Nackerz]

you can not get a roadworthy if you parcel shelf has been cut (metal part)

if it is rusty you will have to replace it meaning cut the rust out and weld a new one in and somebody said your window seals are stuffed

i would do them at the same time!

[Tom_1569]

awesome, just awesome.

whats the going rate for computer smoke nowadays anyway

"ELECTRICAL THEORY OF SMOKE...BY JOSEPH LUCAS
Positive ground depends upon proper circuit functioning, the transmission of negative ions by retention of the visible spectral manifestation known as "smoke". Smoke is the thing that makes electrical circuits work; we know this to be true because every time one lets the smoke out of the electrical system, it stops working. This can be verified repeatedly through empirical testing.

When, for example, the smoke escapes from an electrical component (i.e., say, a Lucas voltage regulator), it will be observed that the component stops working. The function of the wire harness is to carry the smoke from one device to another; when the wire harness "springs a leak", and lets all the smoke out of the system, nothing works afterwards. Starter motors were frowned upon in British Automobiles for some time, largely because they consume large quantities of smoke, requiring very large wires.

It has been noted that Lucas components are possibly more prone to electrical leakage than Bosch or generic Japanese electrics. Experts point out that this is because Lucas is British and all things British leak. British engines leak oil, shock absorbers, hydraulic forks and disk brakes leak fluid, British tires leak air and the British defence establishment leaks secrets...so, naturally, British electronics leak smoke.

Author Unknown

The Theory Explained through Discussion.

When wires smoke, how come the smoke is not the same color as the wire?

This is not completely true. When the smoke is in the wire, it is under pressure (called voltage). The pressure difference causes the color to change from the normal color we are used to. Not unlike the blood in our veins and arteries changing color due to the oxygen content. When the smoke escapes the wire and is exposed to air, the pressure is released, and the color reverts back to what we commonly recognize as smoke. The wire then changes to the color of the smoke that escaped.

I hope this helps you understand.

I would only question the last sentence of that description. It has been my experience that the wire turns a color directly opposite of the smoke.

Not always true, I think it must depend on the composition of the smoke in question.

I should have made it a little clearer; the color the wire becomes, is directly proportional to the escape velocity of the smoke. Higher velocities generate higher heat. This heat tends to burn the wire and affect the coloring. The statement was meant to be a generalization, indicating the fact that the color of the wire does in fact change. Sorry for the miscommunication.

I was speaking of electrical smoke which is generally white. The spent smoke casing generally assumes a color somewhat near black after the smoke leaves.

I can't stand it anymore! If, as you say, light bulbs suck up darkness and convert it to smoke which is transmitted (via wire) to a power source for recycling...why do car batteries go dead when lights are left on? Do car batteries (and flashlight batteries for that matter) have a limited amount of storage capability? Is it like a hard drive that gets so full that you have to double-space and then lose all data?

Now you're getting it.......

I thought you guys were smarter than this. Of course the battery stores the smoke. In fact it can store so much smoke that if you open the top and light a match, the resulting explosion can do serious damage. I'm sure you are aware that usually where there's smoke there's fire. If you connect the battery to a charger, the smoke is then returned to the wire (Remember, a light bulb wont work unless it is connected to a wire system) for the utility companies to use. Your hard drive analogy is a very good example.

Our hardware guys might be onto something in their quest for superior wiring. I have noticed the unique method of of series/parallel wiring the power strips on our systems seems to prevent the smoke from getting out of the wires. A "Smoke Loop" of sorts. In the case of the "smoked" workstation recently, you should notice that this was a conventional single power strip installation.

Since color is percieved by the cone shaped receptors in our eyes, and cones require more light that their rod shaped counterparts. Is the sky blue at night?

At night the process including contraction of the pupil is visual purple by which the eye adapts to conditions of increased illumination when facing 300 candle power redeflecting devices.

Since there is a spectrum of light that we as humans cannot see, I support the theory that everything is going up in smoke, we just can't see it. This may explain why the neighbors dog barks for no apparant reason.

I think your basic understanding of smoke systems is remarkable. However I find a flaw with your theory. The battery is a reusable storage device for smoke. therefore, one would assume that some sort of one way valve (we can call it a diode) should be needed to prevent pressure flooding back into the system while at rest. Unlike the A/C system, the smoke system is collecting darkness at the headlights and converting it to smoke. This causes the system to fill up. The battery can contain much higher pressures and volumes than the wires. If this pressure exceeds the capacity of the wire, it will cause a rupture as you described. The rupture can be controlled by a sacraficial device known as a fuse. But this still doesn't eliminate the problem. Perhaps a two way valve (zener diode) is used to allow a small amount of pressure to return to the system, and partially equalize. I find this theory unlikely though, due to the increase in the force required to start the pump (which is now under pressure) working again...

The smoke continues circulating through the system, due to the pressure differential in the battery (smoke pressure/vacuum reservoir). When the reservoir becomes depleted, the pressure simply equalizes everywhere in the system (similar to an A/C system when it's turned off) and stuff just wont work. Notice the relations: Work (W) = Force (F) x Distance (D); Force (F) = total difference in pressure (Dp) x Area (A). Therefore, the work done in a pressure system is: Dp x A x D. If the pressure differential (Dp) is reduced to zero then W = 0 x A x D = 0.

The smoke only escapes the wires when a path is created between the pressure differential areas (@ either the reservoir or the pump) that has too little restriction. When this happens, the smoke travels through the wires so fast that the friction between the smoke and the outer walls of the wiring heats the wires until they rupture. The smoke continues to escape until its pressure is equalized with the atmosphere, or until the conduit that provides the path between pressure areas is severed. When this happens, the sudden drop in pressure allows the wires to "collapse" slightly and, being soo hot, as the edges of the ruptures and severed ends touch, the material becomes fused, sealing the system and retaining the remaining smoke.

Don't forget, when the system is at rest, all the valves, (switches and relays) are closed, keeping the pressure areas separated. When restarting the pump, as long as everything is OK, the smoke pressure is equal on both sides of the pump and there is no net force on the pump when it begins operating again. Also, within the pump there are pressure/volume actuated one-way valves with restrictors built in, arranged in such a way that they keep excess smoke volume recirculating through an integral smoke loop, which maintains the pressure within manageable limits.

The excess smoke, created by the light/smoke converters (headlights and other darkness absorbing devices), is changed back to darkness and dissipated in small unit concentrations so its dark effect is not locally observed. The smoke pump impeller (stator), converts smoke into magnetic flux which does work on the engine. Some of the excess work energy is dissipated through the cooling system and exhaust in the form of heat, while the remaining work energy is converted back to smoke and distributed evenly in small concentrations as you drive. This maintains the total quantity of smoke in the system at an average that does not change over time."

Umm what was the topic again? lol

[MICKY.D]

how about coke with a 5% discount from work.. yay!!!

work at coles do ya????

[ari666]

"ELECTRICAL THEORY OF SMOKE...BY JOSEPH LUCAS
Umm what was the topic again? lol

LMFAO, i can believe i read the whole thing,

[VKCOMMO]

yer.. coles, how did you know??

[BENJAMUM]

Thats what i made out of mdf

[VKCOMMO]

Thats what i made out of mdf

that is absolutely sickass.. how did you do that and how much did it cost.. walk me through it..

[BENJAMUM]

just thinking bout it i didnt use mdf it was ply wood lol i copyed the old parcel shelf and cut the holes out 4 the speakers ,then i traced the holden pic on it and cut it out with a jig saw and painted it black and then glued some sub box carpet on it ,and cut it out with a sharp knife and used a lighter 2 clean up the edgers and then went 2 super cheap and got sum fake checked plate to put behind it ,then put some more ply behind the holden logo 2 make it stronger it took bout 4 hrs but i got the ply from work but its not that much 4 a sheet and a roll of the fake checked plate was like 30 bucks and sub box carpet is like 25 bucks a meter ,easy as 2 do man

[VKCOMMO]

it looks really good.. i think im gonna do that. how much would it cost to get the holden pic on actual checkerplate and who would do it??

thanks