auto to manual

[VKCOMMO]

hey

just wondering how hard it wouyld be to fit a 5 speed manual to my sute vk black 202 carbed?

what is a good gearbox for this also??

thanks

[Tom_1569]

Easiest 5-speed gearobx to fit is the M76, more common in the Vh range from memory.

They dont like a hard time, but are quite a nice box.
If you want something to flog the absolute shit out of day after day then look at a Celica gearbox conersion though very pricey.

I wouldnt pay more then $350 for the entire M76 manual conversion gear unless it has a new clutch.

[VKCOMMO]

what would i need clutch wise. like new pedal and all

thanks

[Tom_1569]

Parts needed (Ill probs forget some)
Gearbox
Bellhousing
Throwout fork (etc)
Clutch
Flywheel
Manual pedal box
Clutch cable
Tailshaft
Shifter
Shifter surround/console
Gearbox mounts

[VKCOMMO]

thanks.. how much work will that involve?

[Tom_1569]

Depends how good you at throwing a spanner, and what equipment you've got.
Anywhere from 3 hours, to a couple of days lol.

[VKCOMMO]

k, what equipment is needed?? and i own a really good, but heavy spanner set so not too far

[Tom_1569]

Assorted lot of spanners, and scokets.
Breaker bars, extension bars, Unijonts (for the sockets) a rattle gun sure makes the job easier.
Clutch alligning tool is really the only specialised tool you will need.

[dynoryder]

castlemain rod shop has a lot of conversion kits im sure i can remember they did a supra five and a tremec five speed

the tremec is the best but a little bigger

p.s ratchet spanners are good to ive got a bluepoint set 8mm to 24mm and 1/4inch to 1inch cost me bout $800

[ari666]

p.s ratchet spanners are good to ive got a bluepoint set 8mm to 24mm and 1/4inch to 1inch cost me bout $800

oh my god, how good are they? i have a bunch of metric ones which have lasted daily abuse by me for 2 years now. one of the bolts holding the swingie-head bit broke and the snap on guy just shrugged and gave me a new one

[Nackerz]

2 really good boxes for these conversion are

Celica 5 speed
OR
Supra 5 speed

[VKCOMMO]

k.. im looking for the best one that wont make me have to sell my tackle to buy

[ari666]

so your lookin at the 4 speed then...

[dynoryder]

oh my god, how good are they? i have a bunch of metric ones which have lasted daily abuse by me for 2 years now. one of the bolts holding the swingie-head bit broke and the snap on guy just shrugged and gave me a new one

the guy i work with has had his for 8 years he told me to get bluepoint

he only got 8-19 and 7/16-11/16 in bluepoint then 20 21 22 24 in gearwrench

[VKCOMMO]

how much would a 4 be then

[ari666]

i bought mine seperatly cos' with the smaller ones (10-13mm) they have a swivel head which is much better for tight spots, like child restraint anchors on parcel shelves.

as they increase size they increase price, all mine are blu-point. the 10mm was around 18 bucks, 12mm $20, 13 $25 etc etc, but as i said earlier, they are covered by a lifetime warranty, the snap on guy just takes the broken ones and swaps them, if it isnt something stupid you have done like hit it with a hammer or left it out in the rain to rust.

i have the snap on rep's number at work if you are interested, he also does apprentice finance if you have a job.

[Tom_1569]

how much would a 4 be then

I sold my mc6 (4 speed) conversion with a reconditioned tailshaft for $300 earlier this year.

[VKCOMMO]

and it would cost about 350$ for the whole 5 speed, is that including tailshaft??

[ari666]

nah, you wont need a tailshaft for the 4 speed. itll just be a box and clutch. so much cheaper/easier. all the factory provisions will be there ready to go.
a very quick search of ebay yelds;

HOLDEN COMMODORE TORANA MONARO AUSSIE 4 SPEED - eBay Manual Transmission, Transmission, Car Parts, Accessories, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 12-Oct-09 22:32:41 AEDST)

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/V8-AUSSIE-4-S...d=p3286.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Holden-Aussie...d=p3286.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/M20-Aussie-4-...d=p3286.c0.m14


hmmm, they are not as cheap as i thought ...

[VKCOMMO]

sh!t, 600$.. that's a bit out of my price range

[VKCOMMO]

ok, what if i bought a sh!t banged-up-the-arse old vk and got all the gear out of it.. what would i have to get out.. would it be hard??

[Tom_1569]

Those gearboxes are Aussie 4-speeds, they are more expensive. A tougher box but not needed,
The mc6 is the VK 4 speed box, its cheap, and a comfortable box, just not very strong.
Getting an arse VK isnt a bad idea, you will need the parts I listed above.

[ari666]

as long as the diff wasnt shunted and sent the tailshaft into the gearbox...

[VKCOMMO]

then to be on the safe side maybe a t-boned one

thanks.. will look into it