V8 Starter motor help!!

[vkwalks39]

V8 starter motor is there different size's? I just put the V8 in my vk and bolted the starter motor, and then, as I put the pacemakers in the starter motor is to big..........I just what to know if there's a different between the blue starter and a red starter. If I can use the red starter motor it will be great. Then the pace's will fit.

[ari666]

nah shouldnt be a difference afaik.

my pacies juuuuust touched my starter (stockie) by a bees dick, which burned out the solenoid, then i put a red one on from a HQ, fixed it for about 3 weeks, killed that starter too, then had to by a hi-torque starter to clear it properley and never had a problem again.

just make sure it engages and disengages properley and doesnt get stuck.

[vkwalks39]

thanks ari, I do have a hi torque starter but that for a 6's cylinder. My red starter the solenoid broken, tomorrow i go to the sparky, and see what he can do. Our VR commodore is there at the moment.....Cheers Jason

[Hangman]

Can you use a VN-VS V8 starter? I believe they're smaller.

[vkwalks39]

I didnt think you can use a newer s/m on a old motor! I'll look in to it, thanks hangman.

[Hangman]

That's from memory of what I've read. I haven't actually tried it. Makes sense though, the blocks are pretty much the same.

[vkwalks39]

ok cool thanks.

[ari666]

might wanna check how many teeth are on a VR-VS, i have a feeling they are different. (153 and 148 comes to mind, but its first thing in the morning and its possible i am still dreaming)

[vkwalks39]

It's ok guys thanks for your help!! my old man had a stash of starter motors so i grab a couple of them. Ari i hope you having a clean dreams? lol.....

[DANNY8]

I'm using a a starter on my carby 308 that was bought for a EFI 5.0L VP. Only thing I had trouble with was finding bolts for it (couldn't even find any second hand).....which turns out bosche make also and are available from Repco lol.

[vkwalks39]

cool, i didnt think that efi 50L stater would fit on a old carby v8.Tomorrow, I'm going to try these starter motors that my old man had in his shed if they dont fit then I'll go get a efi starter... Well you learn something new everyday dont you! We just have autopro here in stawell, we dont have burson or repco, or super crap....this town rocks NOT!!!! Thanks guys for your help.

[DANNY8]

My efi 5L starter is a new hi torque one tho, not an original unit.

[vkwalks39]

I've done it now, just have to wire it up.....get some fuel in it and make some noise!!!!! The car has NO mufflers so it should be little loud.....lol

[ari666]

this kinda loud?



TURN THEM SPEAKERS UP!!!!

[vkwalks39]

yeah something like that mate, But I've rebuild the engine so everything is new, that's including the cam. My lovely neighbours (old farts) going to love me for 10mins with engine running at 1500 rpm for 10mins.....lol.....Cant wait!!!!

[ari666]

20 mins, and bring the revs up from 1500 to 3000 then back down, and repeat


running in the cam?

[vkwalks39]

Ok, When i brought the cam at autopro, the guy told me to rev to 1500 for 10mins. Its a baby cam, crow cam 280/ 110/486"...2000 to 4800rpm. But i do have another cam its a bit warmer than that, crow cam 300/109/ 495"......I have to tell you's it's a blue 253 that i have. I know its a 253 but to me its still a v8. Before i had kids, I had a vr s-pk bt-1 v8, it went!!

[vkwalks39]

here a pic of the v8 before it went in the car

[VK SL 3800]

WTF is welded on the end of the water pump pulley?

Looks sweet otherwise, good work.

[DANNY8]

WTF is welded on the end of the water pump pulley?

Looks sweet otherwise, good work.

Looks like a fan spacer out of a Kingswood.

Here's a 253 we pulled out of our old Kingswood, same spacer.

[vkwalks39]

lol..... its a fan spacer as danny said....lol.... its not on there now, cause Im be running a themo fan.....I just have get street terra roller rockers, 1" spacer, msd blaster coil 3d, I'll be happy with it. Also having a trimatic behind its getting stage 1 shift kit. maybe a 2200 stally as well...

[ari666]

lol, dude... i hope you are swapping all that kit onto a 308 later...

[DANNY8]

lol, dude... i hope you are swapping all that kit onto a 308 later...

Building a 253 instead of a 308 is just like using carby heads instead of EFI heads!!

[ari666]

your mum!!!

[vkwalks39]

lol ari, I have though about it mate, to find a carby 308 around here is like finding a needle in a hay stack!! Wreckers do have efi V8 for $1650 without wiring, computer, and bolt ons..... I did have a 308 but my old man using it for his Hq....I heard some bad thing about 308's like valves burnt outs, cams snaping, i think they also drop cylinders....I dont know if they are true, maybe you guys could shed some light for me pls? I also do have another stock 253, and thinking of spending $4000 on it......danny8 your motor is nuts!! oh yeah, the starter motor a real tight fit bugger me