twin turbo 202?

[VKorie]

for my first car i got a VK with a stock black engine, i wanna make it fast and i want it twin turbo'd
is this a good idea or am i dreaming? has anyone seen it done and work well?

[Rusty]

Dreaming unless you want to spend around 20x the value of your car on a turbo setup

[VKorie]

even when the car is in mint order, only 100, 000km and manual etc...
do you get good power etc?
maybe single turbo instead?

[Rusty]

even when the car is in mint order, only 100, 000km and manual etc...
do you get good power etc?
maybe single turbo instead?

Do a bit of google search for what needs re-inforcing / strengthening and replacing to make it cope with a single turbo let alone two. Cut corners when installing a turbo and you will destroy your car quicker than you realize.

Power wise - bang for buck would be best off dropping in a V8 and putting a little bit of cash into mods. Still end up thousands cheaper than a TT setup. Thats my opinion - someone may correct me

[DerekP]

^^

Agree.

[DANNY8]

I disagree.....if I was in ur shoes I'd go turbo just to give it a crack. There's manifolds available but they seem to be worth a bit these days, so make ur own using a set of extractors, few bits of pipe and a flange (I could prolly make a 202 turbo manifold for under $100). Then buy some more pipe to make a dump pipe. Maybe use an EFI intake manifold, run the injection gear, go an aftermarket ECU or even a delco conversion and get the memcal played with. Change to an EFI tank, maybe run an 044 pump, rising rate fuel reg. That's a rough guide.

If u can do most of it urself, it can be done cheap....but you'll need the tools like a welder and grinder otherwise you'll be paying someone else to do it. If the most work you've done on ur car is give it an oil change and fit a cd player, don't bother. And if it's ur daily driver, again don't bother. It'll be off the road for....days, weeks, months, maybe forever lol, and you'll prolly blow up a motor or 2 trying to get it right. But that's what makes it fun aye!

[DerekP]

Better still go for a twin turbo 304. Probably won't cost a whole lot more for much bigger gains.

[DANNY8]

Will cost a whole lot more when ya blow it up haha. That's the reason I went 253, ya can pick up a runner for $50. Sad thing is my twin turbo 253 dunga that's slapped 2gether and cost around 2-3k has the potential to flog my 12k 308 lol.

[DerekP]

Sad thing is my twin turbo 253 dunga that's slapped 2gether and cost around 2-3k has the potential to flog my 12k 308 lol.

you see, I knew the 253 had their uses!

[VKorie]

fair go...
sounds like a challenge... maybe just a rb25det?

[Dirbatua]

VK 202 black block can only handle a max of 300-350kw (might be rwkw cant remember)before the block cracks and shit goes boom.

Twin Turbo, single turbo, supercharger, twin superchargers, its all been done before.

Just be aware it ends up being expensive as all #### in the long run but its something not alot of people have and they are fun to drive.

Best thing on a VK turbo is to convert it to EFI if it isnt already, makes things alot simpler.

Take a look at this site and this dudes car.

Turbo202.com.au - Boosting Holden 6 Enthusiasts!

Liam's VK Buildup - WTF202 - EFI Turbo 202 VK

[vkberlina]

VK 202 black block can only handle a max of 300-350kw (might be rwkw cant remember)before the block cracks and shit goes boom.

Twin Turbo, single turbo, supercharger, twin superchargers, its all been done before.

Just be aware it ends up being expensive as all #### in the long run but its something not alot of people have and they are fun to drive.

Best thing on a VK turbo is to convert it to EFI if it isnt already, makes things alot simpler.

Take a look at this site and this dudes car.

Turbo202.com.au - Boosting Holden 6 Enthusiasts!



Liam's VK Buildup - WTF202 - EFI Turbo 202 VK

exactly my old blower on my 202 I had once cost more than my efi5l engine and gearbox

scott

[Darren_L]

twin turbo is going to be as dear as poison....
I realise the twin turbo thing is a dream of yours, but any reason you wouldn't consider just going single turbo ?
Obviously twin turbos tend to reduce turbo lag, but unless you have a huge budget, the cost is going to blow out big time.

[ToMMMaY]

as much as i think he is a dreamer
The only hard part about the twin turbos would be cause of the straight 6 It would definatly not be worth it power wise also

and with the v8 comments
Looks like V8s are for poor people the way i read shit all the time Complaining about how much money they dont have to spend on cars.
Anybody knoes it takes time to save for something so i dont see whats the problem?

[vkberlina]

and with the v8 comments
Looks like V8s are for poor people the way i read shit all the time Complaining about how much money they dont have to spend on cars.
Anybody knoes it takes time to save for something so i dont see whats the problem?

I prefer to think value for money in an early commodore, V6 & V8 are the best KW for your $$

LS series may give more power but cost alot more, 202 IMO are a waste of time spending money on I spent about more putting a blower on my EFI 202 than it cost to fit an entire EFI 5L, T5, 3.45 LSD coversion with more power better drivability and better fuel ecomomy and a more reliable setup.


OP even consider a V6 twin turbo or supercharged V6 setup way better gains to be had over a 202, I would even suggest be outright cheaper, good turn key doner car can be bought cheap and are a great source of disposable engines.

My Latest project car that I am buying up parts for I have an EFI 5l (low kms) & T5 owing me about $300 after wreaking out the doner car, bolting straight into a a car would see cost going up to $2k total build cost for a pretty quick car. In my books thats bang for buck

scott

[DerekP]

and with the v8 comments
Looks like V8s are for poor people the way i read shit all the time Complaining about how much money they dont have to spend on cars.
Anybody knoes it takes time to save for something so i dont see whats the problem?

(naturally aspirated) six packs are for P platers....

Point?

[ToMMMaY]

I prefer to think value for money in an early commodore, V6 & V8 are the best KW for your $$

LS series may give more power but cost alot more, 202 IMO are a waste of time spending money on I spent about more putting a blower on my EFI 202 than it cost to fit an entire EFI 5L, T5, 3.45 LSD coversion with more power better drivability and better fuel ecomomy and a more reliable setup.


OP even consider a V6 twin turbo or supercharged V6 setup way better gains to be had over a 202, I would even suggest be outright cheaper, good turn key doner car can be bought cheap and are a great source of disposable engines.

My Latest project car that I am buying up parts for I have an EFI 5l (low kms) & T5 owing me about $300 after wreaking out the doner car, bolting straight into a a car would see cost going up to $2k total build cost for a pretty quick car. In my books thats bang for buck

scott

If you could do all the Engine swap yourself Change alot of stuff Grab a bargain of a engine it could be cheaper

Or instead spend 5-6k for some workshop to do it and still have a stock engine

5-6k on anyengine will definatly get it going no doubt

[ToMMMaY]

(naturally aspirated) six packs are for P platers....

Point?

Im pretty sure that situation is part of the Law

Now ontopic
lets talk about Forced Induction Six packs

Point?

[DerekP]

Im pretty sure that situation is part of the Law

Now ontopic
lets talk about Forced Induction Six packs

Point?

Point is, and in the words of ari666 - anything you do to your six banger I can do to my 8 and get a better result.

[Jonno]

for my first car i got a VK with a stock black engine

p plater?


twin turbo?


or was it first car, and never got rid of it?

(just comfirming)

[SL/ENUT]

I can see this becoming a bad thread.
The big picture is, you never see twin turbo'ed 202. Reasons? cause its a dead lose. You do often see the odd turbo'ed Holden 6, not often 202 though to the limit of the block.

[ToMMMaY]

Point is, and in the words of ari666 - anything you do to your six banger I can do to my 8 and get a better result.

Wacking a Gilmer system and thinking your 5l is supercharged does not make it any better my friend.

So When you do get your ass ripped by a 6cylinder what do you blame it on then

[VK SL 3800]

Wacking a Gilmer system and thinking your 5l is supercharged does not make it any better my friend.

So When you do get your ass ripped by a 6cylinder what do you blame it on then

No offense but that is in no way relevant to what Derekp said, all he means is if you supercharge your six and he supercharges his 8 he will make more power (maybe not a 253 but you get my point), you then turbo it as well and then he does the same, the 8 makes more power. No matter what you do you the larger displacement will make the most power with the same sort of setup.

[oscar03]

there was a bloke down here in tas a while ago that used to drive his lc to the drags run high 11's - low 12's all night and drive home again with a turbo grey 202. stock internals and all he set it all up for about $1800 all he did was put on a blow through carb tap in the oil and home made the piping to his intercooler (which he never even had at first) changed the diff don't know what power he made but he didn't either he didn't care but his time slips talked for them self.
oh he also cut a hole in his bonnet and glued a paint roller tray upside down with the end cut off for a scoop to get more air in.
real budget job but it worked a treat.

[T-rex]

he also cut a hole in his bonnet and glued a paint roller tray upside down with the end cut off for a scoop to get more air in.
real budget job but it worked a treat.

Made of awesome.