CAI for 202 carby?

[The90kwBeast]

Hello all again,

I've been thinking - is it possible to buy/make a CAI for a 202 carby and would there be any benefit being a carburettor (CAI are all for EFIs, or so i have seen)? Looking at Holden's air cleaner design, it's pretty stupid - the pipe is pointing at the battery (kudos to the engineer who thought of that design) and all it would suck is hot air and battery labels up.

Problem is there isn't anywhere really for some sort of pipe to go through to the front of the car upon quick inspection and because of the length of the pipe of the air cleaner assembly, you can't chuck on a pipe that points downwards. Any ideas?

The only thing I have thought of (and it is a bit of a crazy idea) would be to swivel the air cleaner assembly around 90 degrees so it faces the rear of the car, then attach some sort of pipe that goes to the rear of the engine bay, cut a hole in the sheet metal in front of the area below the airvents/wiper motors then duct the pipe up to those airvents (the only place to access cold air I think). Quite a quest for cold air but I've got nothing...

[Goon]

Ive noticed a gape on the left side on my car near the grill, you could make some pipe to slot in there and joins over the reocket cover to the air cleaner.

ps. kudos to the maker of it lol! im with ya!

[Pub247]

Tthere would be a small benefit making something similar to a v8 cold air tray. There is room if you see how a vk efi setup is there's a bit of room next to the raidator.

[Doctor Bob]

have a look at a stock 2850 VH they have a cold air setup std, ill take some pics of one for you tomorrow

Rob

[The90kwBeast]

After posting this thread, I did a search for this topic and found the exact same question asked and got the exact same reply like yours Dr Bob. Might have a looksee at the wreckers tomorrow to pick up an air cleaner assembly and pipe from a 2.85. Interesting how the 2.85 had the pipe, but the 3.3 didn't...

Cheers for offering to take pics too Dr Bob. Will be interesting to see where Holden actually put the pipe - maybe next to the battery or something?

[Doctor Bob]

here is one, only got 1 pic then the camera went flat...

[Goon]

Wicked, how did the owner come across that part? is it factory or custom? form another car?

[82VH]

there was a CAI on the 1.9 (4) and the 2.85 (6) for the VH models. Look for the setup from the 1.9 because of the lower engine bay temp the rubber hose is in usable condition, where all the sixs I've come across are brittle and useless.

you can see a setup here.

http://gallery.oldholden.com/82vh/

(if the site is up)

I'm going to put in more pictures (one day). not really more power, but better economy and smoother in hot weather.

P.S. lots of old carby cars came with CAI, my nieces 1978 corona has got one

[82VH]

there was a CAI on the 1.9 (4) and the 2.85 (6) for the VH models. Look for the setup from the 1.9 because of the lower engine bay temp the rubber hose is in usable condition, where all the sixs I've come across are brittle and useless.

you can see a setup here.

http://gallery.oldholden.com/82vh/

(if the site is up)

I'm going to put in more pictures (one day). not really more power, but better economy and smoother in hot weather.

P.S. lots os old carby cars came with CAI, my nieces 1978 corona has got one

[Goon]

Nice mate, im going to get myself one of those!

I've seen the air cleanr before on a VH 2.85 but it didnt have the hose on it

Cheers!

ps. should be good if u live in a cold area, like early in the mornings "3-4am" should gain 4kw in suction, i know having the 3.3 air cleaner off u gain that much. But that design and pipe is much better ! and your enviroment would count..

[The90kwBeast]

hi guys,

sorry for the long delay... finally found a 2.85L CAI from the wreckers for $40 in pretty good nick.

But about installing it... it looks so straightforward at first, but when you go to put the plastic pipe in that runs to the front of the car (by putting it in on an angle avoiding hoses and pipes) you run into several problems.

1. The power steering oil hose cant be flexed out of the way and is in the way.

2. Theres some chassis bolt which sticks up about 0.5cm from the sheet metal, and (i think) makes it so the plastic tube wont fit under the battery terminal tray.

Grr.... has anyone ever installed one of these things before on a 202 with power steering? (ps keeping in mind my car is a VK)? The last thing i want to do is take it to a mechanic and pay him something to do this...

Cheers. Kurt

[82VH]

even without the power steering in the way it sucks - you may have to unbolt loosly to get it in.

Does the VK have the hole behind the grille, beside the radiator?

I know the VC doesn't.

the 3.3 dosen't have it because holden was poor at the time, and only did the minimum to get past emmissions ETC

It should have been on all the cars

[The90kwBeast]

Hi,

Yeah the VK has the hole between the radiator and the side of the car, just wide enough so the plastic tube fits in...

How do you mean 'unbolt loosely'? I dont know if that bolt can actually come undone.. theres like a curved piece of metal above it, preventing it from being loosened. i looked at the pics on your site 82VH, and although it didnt look like your car has power steering, i was wondering were you at all able to take some more pics sort of looking side on from within the engine bay of the pipe and how you've got it to fit?

[Goon]

The VC has a hole on the other side the left, but thats no good seeing its on the right + plus the fan being there, but with an extension and thermo fan installed you might be able to just do it in a VC, though the cooling pipe might be a bit odd & not work aswell.

I'm still intrested in the air filter itself , the nose is so much more open.

[SiLeNt-SoN]

Hey,

bit off topic,

but im thinking as the air filter pushes the air out of the trumpet, can i jsut jimmy up some tubing and lead it down behind the battery under the car, which in turn will hopefully let the hit air out under the car...!

otherwise having the air blown out the front will jsut let the hot air come back in past radiator?

not sure of that made sense lol...

and ideas plz...!

[Goon]

Not bad ideas mate, think think the only hot air your will encounter is that coming off your engine, as for your hose idea that would be good, but you would want to consider a good filter at the end, atleast to avoid sucking up gravel and S**t off the ground.