Calais hazard flasher

[craigvk]

My hazards have stopped working.

I am trying to figure out from my manuals whether there is a seperate flasher can for the hazards?

The indicators work as normal.

And can anyone tell me where the flasher cans are located? I haven't dug too deep yet.

Sorry for the stupid questions.

Cheers,
Craig.

[Goon]

hooked any other 12v items up recently? that might be draining the power for that switch, might be crossed wired somehow.

I also found have that the key turned to far forward will cut items off.

might have blown a fuse, im sure it would be a fuse on its own as it does a diff operation to your indicators, using 4 lots fo power not 2 at a time.

[craigvk]

Nah nothing connected up. Definately never to the same loom as the indicators!

The hazards work with ignition on or off. Though I really need a new ignition barrel as the one I have is tired, but works.

Haven't checked any fuses but I am sure all the indicators are on the same fuse.

I have a bad feeling there is something wrong inside the steering column wiring wise. Occationally when I turn the ignition on, it is dead and if I press the horn, it comes alive. I don't like the idea of pulling my steering column to bits.

[Goon]

Sounds like a wire issue mate, i had a park light wire be a prick, u would tap it and it would turn on, the same for off.

Overall the joint between both objects was crap.

[craigvk]

Yeah wiring can be a complete swine.

I checked it out and the hazard button just closes both contacts i.e. completes the circuit for left and right, so there is only one flasher and if the indicators work, then there is nothing wrong with the flasher can.

Now I need to pull some crap to bits.

[Goon]

The joints may be right mate but check your wires to, even some of the fresh cut pieces can end up crap by handling.

[craigvk]

The biggest shit with wiring in my car is having the alarm under the dash. It's just a plain bad idea. Too many wires, too much mess and no where to move. It's a big jungle of crap atm. I can't wait to relocate it in my engine bay inside one of those diecast boxes mounted on the chassis, then I would be able to see under the dash.

I have a feeling that the wiring problem is definately between under the column where I connected my alarm flasher wire to the hazard lights wire and the actual switch. It's probably just the wiring where it switches is faulty. Probably broken or has a bad connection. The good thing is it isn't a major job. I just need to pull the dang steering wheel off again.

[308vkcalais]

Slim, maybe the little dodgy columm hazard press switch thing has died.U'd know wat i'm on about, it's all part of the indicator switch assembly in the steering lock Collar.Steering wheel job removal to fix, as u'd know anyway from maybe a previous indicator switch replacement.God knows how many i've dun, stupid things.Poxy annoying things like that p.$$ me off big time but they're old cars now.Slap a bit of Neva Seize on ya steering wheel coz ya just neva know when u may need to rip it off agen.I've the same drama with spaghetti wiring unda my dash aswell from the alarm/Immob thing.It's a horror to put your hand up there as it's a certainty afterwards sumthing wun work, as i've just dun.Now my indicators flash but the alarm dun sound...Sh.t...!!!

[craigvk]

If it did work, then I can make it work. The end result might be dodgy, but I'll need to look at it. A couple of hot wire jobs with the steering wheel of will tell me if the switch is faulty. Or hot wire meaning bypassing the actual switch and using jumper wires. I know the switch must be dead. It's obvious.

Still need to get some anti sieze. Used some up at the farm last visit. You could use that crap on every thread on your car.

I think last time I used a rattle gun to take the wheel off and it wasn't that hard to get off either. Just a biff and bump and she came off.

[Cane_It]

mate, its not that hard to replace the switch, 30 minutes tops as long as ya steering wheel comes off easy or you have a puller and the lower plastic on the steering column comes off without breaking the plastic lugs in the upper half then you shouldnt need to fiddle about too much under the dash. i have a switch but its out of a VC, the harness plugs are a different type to VK though, so make sure you get a VK one not one from an earlier girl.

agree with what you're saying about bolts, nickel compound is a wonderful thing,

[synoptica]

The biggest shit with wiring in my car is having the alarm under the dash. It's just a plain bad idea. Too many wires, too much mess and no where to move. It's a big jungle of crap atm. I can't wait to relocate it in my engine bay inside one of those diecast boxes mounted on the chassis, then I would be able to see under the dash.

I replaced my alarm this weekend and I didn't make the mistake of wiring it under the dash again for that very reason (the central locking still resides there, screwed next to the wiper dwell module).

You don't need to mount it under the hood for it to be out the way though, I didn't. There's plenty of other void, hidden spaces in the cabin if you look hard enough

edit: oh and it is SO MUCH BETTER not having the alarm there too! I can certainly identify with the 'jungle of crap' comment

[craigvk]

Dang it! Pulled the wheel off 10 minutes ago. I looked at the indicator switch plastic housing and the hazard switch is connected to it, so almost unrepairable. What a swine.
I might have to pull one off at the wreckers. I might get two of them if available. I doubt Holden would have them anymore.

As for the alarm, I ripped the whole lot off under the dash. I couldn't have that crap bundled up like that. Now I have tons more room under there again. Maybe now I can connect my air duct pipe back on. The lower part of my dash has plastic broken and the alarm kept sinking down and was getting in the way of my pedals. I am DEFINATELY going to put it in the engine bay. It would be more secure anyway, and I am a big fan of wiring tidyness. I hate dodgy backyard wiring fixes.

[85berlina]

I strongly suggest that you keep the alarm and all necessary wiring inside the cabin. A lot of people mount them behind the kick panels.

[synoptica]

I know what you mean about the switch, I had to replace mine when it got mangled... lasted for a couple of years, now my right indicator stays on... but at the slightest turn of the wheel it clicks back

Easy job mind you... but I can't find my steering wheel puller!

[craigvk]

I just noticed my indicator stalk has a crack in it. More problems...

[Cane_It]

I just noticed my indicator stalk has a crack in it. More problems...

good luck finding one in cerelean... I had to lower myself and put a black one in after mine broke. You'd think something that was a known problem even back on the HZs and possibly earlier (not that familiar with HQ HJ HX series anymore) would have been well and truly fixed by Holdens in 1984...

[craigvk]

True. I have seen genuine ones go on ebay for heaps. I keep hearing the elcheapo ones aren't great. If I have to go black then I have no choice.

[Cane_It]

I'll keep an eye out at the wreckers (will go after work when this weather clears up, I might be able to obtain one for you....

[craigvk]

Cool man. Cheers.