A great mission called V8:::

[Kadett-Rekord]

Hallo, i want to put a V8 into my opel Rekord-E (seems like Hoden Commodore).

My problem, here in Germany you can't get a Holden Commodore

So i must search parts of other models.

My questions:
- Wich V8 Machine can i use (chevrolet,Rover,..)
- Wich Transmission can i use (TH350,TH400, ...)
- Wich Tailshaft (Lenght,bore,..??)

A big Diff is installed, you called a 10 bolt.

I search all informations with part numbers and dimensions.

Pics are the best information for me, because my english is terrible.


Thanks a lot at all,

[SL/ENUT]

Well now its not often we get this on here.

Does the Opel have Rack and Pinion Steering? Otherwise, it will be hard to fit a Chev V8 in it. Most likely be the same for a Rover V8 too. You can use a TH350/TH400 if you want. Or also you can try as a manual. The problem using a TH350/TH400 its large, could not fit in the Opel main part. I reckon you should try and get a Holden 253/308, the engine K frame correctly and try to measure it your Opel. Use can use either TH350/400 or the Aussie 4 speed manual or also Trimatic car.
Here is my VB SL/E which has a Holden 308. Give roughly idea which you need to for your Opel.

[Wrayza]

Converted that back to English using Altavista, its nasty mate haha. Maybe just post it again in English, he seems fluent enough.

Sorry I can't really help tho, but I'm sure someone on here can. Goodluck mate.

[Kadett-Rekord]

Thanks for the translation, but please write in english, it's easier to translate for me.

So where can i get the Holden 253 /308, where was it build in ??

Where can i find Holden machines, in wich vehicle manufacturer??


Here in germany it's easier to get a Chevy V8 than a Holden V8.

In the Opel Diplomat was a 5.7 Litre Chevy Machine.

Have anyone a pic of the Trimatic, than i can search in germany.

Maybe it was in another model of Opel.


another question: did you have a Paper where all Datas of the Car (VIN, Tyres,Lenght,Weight, ....) in Australia like this:

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It's the german version, who had this "Fahrzeugbrief" he own the Car.


Thanks a lot for all your help...

[SL/ENUT]

Haha i used that AltaVista site too, no way did i type that out!! I'll edit what i wrote last night, in english.

[SL/ENUT]

Hang on, does your Rekord have a 2.0 Litre 4 Cylinder motor under the hood?. If so i don't think a V8 will fit, no matter how you try.

[dreamcatchu]

the rekord is a commodore basically, it should fit, he has links of the car in the my ride section, strange seeing one with german number plates

[SL/ENUT]

No a Rekord is not a Commodore basically, the front end is shorter than a Commodore. Thats why Holden had to graft the bigger bother, the Opel Senator front end onto a Rekord body cause its longer. Actually later on, Opel released an Opel Commodore, the same as our VB/VC Commodores.

[dreamcatchu]

still, going by the engine bay pic a v8 should fit nicely as there isn't much length difference

[Kadett-Rekord]

The Commodore and the Rekord are the same Body with diffrent Front.

The Commodore Front , same as Senator and Monza, is 4 cm longer.

A V8 does fit, there is a boy who had a V8 Diplomat machine in his Monza-A2.

Another one had fit a Lotus Omega machine in his Opel Rekord.

The most people get the 3.0 24V or 4.0 24V CIH in there Rekords.


The boy with the Monza V8 didn't have a legal regestration, thats the problem.

If i had a regestration (Fahrzeugbrief) of anyone from Australia or a Homologation with V8 i can get it legal, thats what i want.

My problem is i don't know where Holden fits his machines in or wich machine is the same.



But i must to compliment this forum, its are very, very interesting and informativ.

[vh-holden]

If yours is left hand drive, a chev would probably be easier, as an american spec chev has the starter on the right hand side.

Putting in an australian motor could be a bit of work with the starter on the left.

[SL/ENUT]

Back this this interesting thread. I take it, the Opel uses recirculating ball steering?. If so that would take a fair bit of room in the engine bay.

[Kadett-Rekord]

So i just have now time.... in the Pic you can see the Starter and Steering.
Just i know i can use the Corvette machine of 1967 and the TH 400.

Did anyone use an Chevrolet V8 for his Commodore and can help me ??


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[burnz]

basicly all holden and chev are inter changable
same stud paterns on the box
the choice of box th350/400 -power glide -getrag -holinger -tremec
253/308 are good engine but the 304e.f.i. is better
you can also use sb chev 283~400

[Reaper]

The Commodore and the Rekord are the same Body with diffrent Front.

The Commodore Front , same as Senator and Monza, is 4 cm longer.

A V8 does fit, there is a boy who had a V8 Diplomat machine in his Monza-A2.

Another one had fit a Lotus Omega machine in his Opel Rekord.

The most people get the 3.0 24V or 4.0 24V CIH in there Rekords.

The boy with the Monza V8 didn't have a legal regestration, thats the problem.

If i had a regestration (Fahrzeugbrief) of anyone from Australia or a Homologation with V8 i can get it legal, thats what i want.

My problem is i don't know where Holden fits his machines in or wich machine is the same.

But i must to compliment this forum, its are very, very interesting and informativ.

Ok.... This will not be an easy project in Europe. Holden is the Australian arm of General Motors in a similar relationship that GM and Opel have.

The engine you refer to is an Australian designed and built engine that was only ever for the local market. (AFAIK only very limited numbers were exported if any). I suspect putting a Chev engine into your Opel would be easier for any number of reasons - it was engineered as a LHD for a start. You would need to consult with your local registration authority as to what is required for the legalities.

Finding parts for the Chev engine in Europe should be relatively easy and there are a lot of American hot rod suppliers that to international mail order.

Another option may be to find a car you like in Australia and have it shipped to you already built. The shipping is surprisingly cheap and once again you will need to consult with your roads authority for registration.

Reaper

[Kadett-Rekord]

Ok just following result.:

- Machine only or better an Chevrolet V8.
- Transmission a TH350 or TH400.

thats the best option for me and it`s easier to realize.

But did anyone can send me an copy of his regestration, that helps me to legalize it here in germany.

Did anyone had a TH 350 or 400 in his Holden?? i need the dimmensions.


THX for all help.

[Pub247]

th350 fit in commo no problem i think the first model released VB had th350 behind they're 308 V8's I know they fit anyway a mate has one in his VK Calais.

[Reaper]

Ok just following result.:

- Machine only or better an Chevrolet V8.
- Transmission a TH350 or TH400.

thats the best option for me and it`s easier to realize.

But did anyone can send me an copy of his regestration, that helps me to legalize it here in germany.

Did anyone had a TH 350 or 400 in his Holden?? i need the dimmensions.

THX for all help.

Those

TH stands for "Turbo Hydromatic". They were also known as "Turbo 350" and Turbo 400". These were 3 speed automatic transmissions released mainly behind Chevrolet V8's in the 70's & 80's. They were also available behind selected Holden V8's in the same era. I don't know if they were available in any European cars.

Both of these transmissions were generally considered very strong and parts are very easily found in Australia and USA. Do a google search and you will find a wealth of information on them which should answer most of your questions.

Sorry - can't help with registration.

Reaper