I want to get a set of 4.11 gears for the diff in my vk wagon. how do i tell what diff it is and then what gears do i buy?
gotta get a 17 somehow!!
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flange on diff with 4 bolts to tailshaft = borgwarner (is also cast into underside of the diff housing)
small salisbury (octagonal rear plate with bolt) common in 202s, normal yoke that takes u-bolts
big salisbury 10 bolt (almost tear shaped rear coverplate with bolt), normal yoke that takes u-bolts)
getting 4.11s is easiest on a borgy diff as Fords used them too. dont bother rebuilding it unless its got 28spline axles.
if it is a borgwarner diff then it will be a 2 spider center with 25 spline axles. this will fit 4.11 gears but the center isn't that strong really.
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thanks for the replies. here is a picture. i'm still confused
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i'm guessing small salisbury.
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You've guessed right chief, that is a 8 bolt "small" Salisbury diff.
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thanks!! so i suppose, the next question i should ask is, how hard is it to get 4.11s for it, and is it worth fitting them?
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Don't think they made a 4.11:1 ratio for those, i know the bigger 10 bolt diffs had 4.44:1. I think its better finding the BW78 diff out of a VK and using that.
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hrmmm, might have to wait.
a mate has suggested getting a pintara diff. would that help?
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You will need the vl diff housing and the pintara center, pintaras came with 3.9's and 4.11's 25 spline but skylines are 3.9 and 28 spline centers, + when you get the VL borgy diff don't forget to grab the tail shaft to go with it as your Salisbury one wont fit.
I hope this is some help
For a gear ratio change u don't use the centre, just the gears, the crown and pinion.
Also, the VL tailshaft won't fit the Salisbury 8 bolt tailshaft (VL tailshaft is slightly larger in diameter). You need to get a tailshaft for a borg warner diff out of a VK. Harder to find, but it's the only option if u don't wanna spend a few extra dollars getting them customised. You need the front of ur current tailshaft to go into the trans, then use the rear section of a VK borg warner tailshaft to join up to ur borg warner diff.
If u can find a R31 Silhouette, that not only has either 3.7(manual) or 3.9(auto) gears, but also LSD. The only thing is they are a 28 spline centre so you'd need to use different axles......but if u were gonna use the LSD centre out of a Skyline, u could just get a VL diff coz VL turbo's and 5.0L's use 28 spline axles......the VK borg warner diffs are 25 spline. VN (and upwards) axles are 28 spline, but those diffs are a little wider again so might need shortening or sumfin.
Lots of mucking around.
For my VK wags, I bought a Borg Warner diff (which was even harder finding a VK wagon borg warner diff), then got a 25 spline LSD off of ebay. I know 28 spline is the way to go, but I'm not making enormous amounts of power so I rekon it will be ok lol.![]()
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Very true you only need the crown and pinion gear but unless you are a diff specialist and are familiar with setting up clearances and back lash/crown to pinion wear i would use a complete mating center with its existing crown and pinion gears, its not an exercise for a novice setting up a borgy diff.
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