VE keys lost - how to program?

[blitz87]

I lost my keys for my VE 2008 and am trying to find solutions for getting a new key, cut and programmed...

1) I dont have any other key - do I need 2 keys to program or is 1 key enough to open the door and start the engine

2) Is it easy to program and the key yourself... even if I dont have another key

3) Anyone know of a cheap place to get a program if none of the above work - ie. I rung around and locksmiths are asking around the $700 mark and that they only do 2 keys...???

[TinSnips]

Pretty sure you need to go to holden to get them programmed.

[Voodoo_SV6]

With my last Subaru, I had the code for the key (in the owners handbook), so I could get the keys cut at almost any decent locksmith, but the coding had to be done by Subaru. Not a cheap exercise

[gts33som]

I had to get one done.
Cost me:
Key from ebay $110
To get it cut $50
Programmed @ holden $130 (I think)

But I got a free scratch from the retard behind the counter dragging her shoe on my sideskirt so I was happy..

[TinSnips]

But I got a free scratch from the retard behind the counter dragging her shoe on my sideskirt so I was happy..

Oh I fkn hate that!!!!!

[jasonsv6]

yeah mate cheepest way would be to but the key from e-bay or holmart get it cut from code then holden will have to programme it for you.
this will involve a tow as you will be able to open the doors with a key cut from code but your alarm will go off and the car will be imobalised.
and you can do one key if you wish to save $

[Wongy295]

Cost me $300 to get a spare key cut...

[UFO]

just curious, but how do you lose 2 sets of keys? (since you dont have any keys to your car now)
and as the eternal pessimist, I have to ask.... I hope you arent doing anything dodgy and require keys to a car that you dont actually own?

not trying to offend you- just asking, but as its your first post and you're asking a question that relates to car security (and youre trying to circumvent it without having to go to Holden), I hope your main goal here is saving money and not doing something else.

just sounds a little wierd that you dont have any keys to your car at all, and yet it doesnt sound like you've been to holden to find out what you should do because you had you'd be aware that holden will require access to your car to reprogram the security system- no locksmith can do that for you).

i just know that if I lost all my keys to my car, the first place I'd call is Holden.
just my 2c.

[gts33som]

My car only came with 1 key so if I lost it I would of been in the same situation.
Good thing I spent the coin and got another cut

[UFO]

^ reasonable explanation

[chad1989]

i found this information in a ve service manual

Adding Keys
Important:
• To initiate, this procedures requires that a learned master key be available.
• A total of 10 keys may be programmed to a single vehicle.
• This procedure adds keys only. The procedure does not erase previously learned keys.
• The keys to be learned must duplicate the mechanical cut of the current key.
• If more than one valet key is to be learned, immediately precede each valet key with a learned master key.
1 With a previously learned master key, turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
2 Turn OFF the ignition and remove the key.
3 Within 10 seconds of turning OFF the ignition, insert the key to be learned and turn ON the ignition. The vehicle has now learned the new key.

Replacing Keys (Canada)
10-Minute Vehicle Key Relearn
Important: This procedure will only relearn the vehicle keys. This procedure will not learn the immobilizer prerelease password or the challenge/response data. Do not use this procedure as a substitute for a 10-minute relearn when replacing or reprogramming a theft deterrent module (TDM) or engine control module (ECM). Doing so will result in a failure to learn the pre-release password and/or the challenge/response data.
This 10-minute learn procedure should be used when all vehicle keys are desired to be replaced or reprogrammed. This procedure will erase all previously learned vehicle keys from the TDM. Once the 10-minute learn procedure has been completed, any remaining vehicle keys may be programmed using the Adding Keys procedure to ensure their continued functionality.
1 Connect a scan tool to the vehicle in the pass-thru arrangement.
2 Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
3 Ensure that all power consuming devices are turned OFF on the vehicle.
4 On the Techline Terminal, select Service Programming System and follow the Techline Terminal on-screen instructions, using the Pass-Thru method. Ensure the correct programming selection is chosen based on component being replaced or programmed. For this procedure, go to the VTD Vehicle Theft Deterrent Learn menu and choose the Vehicle Theft Deterrent Learn for Learning Replacement Keys selection.
5 At this point the scan tool must remain connected for the duration of the 10-minute relearn procedure.
Important:
• The scan tool will initially display 12 Minutes. The first 2 minutes allow the scan tool to initialize the appropriate control module. The remaining 10 minutes is the relearn timer.
• On some vehicles the security indicator may be illuminated for the duration of the 10minute relearn procedure.
1 Observe the scan tool, after approximately 10 minutes the scan tool will display "Programming Successful, Turn OFF Ignition". The vehicle is now ready to relearn the key information and/or the passwords on the next ignition switch transition from OFF to RUN.
2 Turn OFF the ignition and wait 2 minutes.
3 With a master vehicle key, turn the ignition to the RUN position for 15 seconds, then start the vehicle. The TDM has now learned the key transponder information.
4 With a scan tool, clear any DTCs.

Replacing Keys (North America except Canada)
10-Minute Vehicle Key Relearn
Important: This procedure will only relearn the vehicle keys. This procedure will not learn the immobilizer prerelease password or the challenge/response data. Do not use this procedure as a substitute for a 10-minute relearn when replacing or reprogramming a theft deterrent module (TDM) or engine control module (ECM). Doing so will result in a failure to learn the pre-release password and/or the challenge/response data.
This 10-minute learn procedure should be used when all vehicle keys are desired to be replaced or reprogrammed. This procedure will erase all previously learned vehicle keys from the TDM. Once the 10-minute learn procedure has been completed, any remaining vehicle keys may be programmed using the Adding Keys procedure to ensure their continued functionality.
1 Connect a scan tool to the vehicle in the pass-thru arrangement.
2 Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
3 Ensure that all power consuming devices are turned OFF on the vehicle.
4 On the Techline Terminal, select Service Programming System and follow the Techline Terminal on-screen instructions, using the Pass-Thru method. Ensure the correct programming selection is chosen based on component being replaced or programmed. For this procedure, go to the V.T.D. Vehicle Theft Deterrent Learn menu and choose the Vehicle Theft Deterrent Learn for Learning Replacement Keys selection.
5 At this point the scan tool must remain connected for the duration of the 10-minute relearn procedure.
Important:
• The scan tool will initially display 12 Minutes. The first 2 minutes allow the scan tool to initialize the appropriate control module. The remaining 10 minutes is the relearn timer.
• On some vehicles the security indicator may be illuminated for the duration of the 10minute relearn procedure.
1 Observe the scan tool, after approximately 10 minutes the scan tool will display "Programming Successful, Turn OFF Ignition". The vehicle is now ready to relearn the key information and/or the passwords on the next ignition switch transition from OFF to CRANK.
2 Turn OFF the ignition and wait 2 minutes.
3 With a master vehicle key, turn the ignition to the RUN position for 15 seconds, then start the vehicle. The TDM has now learned the key transponder information.
4 With a scan tool, clear any DTCs.
30-Minute Vehicle Key Relearn
Important: This procedure will only relearn the vehicle keys. This procedure will not learn the immobilizer prerelease password or the challenge/response data. Do not use this procedure as a substitute for a 10-minute relearn when replacing or reprogramming a TDM or ECM. Doing so will result in a failure to learn the prerelease password and/or the challenge/response data.
This 30-minute learn procedure should be used when all vehicle keys are desired to be replaced or reprogrammed. This procedure will erase all previously learned vehicle keys from the TDM. Once the 30-minute learn procedure has been completed, any remaining vehicle keys may be
programmed using the Adding Keys procedure to ensure their continued functionality.
1. With an unlearned master vehicle key, turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
2. Observe the security indicator, after approximately 10 minutes the telltale will turn off.
3. Turn OFF the ignition, and wait 5 seconds.
4. Repeat steps 1-3 two more times for a total of 3 cycles or 30 minutes.
Important: The TDM learns the key transponder information upon the ignition switch transition from OFF to ON. You must turn the ignition OFF before attempting to start the vehicle.
5. With a master vehicle key, start the vehicle. The vehicle has now learned the key transponder information.
6. If additional keys are required to be learned, refer to Adding Keys.
7. With a scan tool, clear any DTCs.

[jasonsv6]

i tried this with my car and all it did was lock me out for 40 Min then only one key worked so had to take it to Holden anyway

[UFO]

All good info, but me thinks people might have a problem with step 4....

4 On the Techline Terminal, select Service Programming System and follow the Techline Terminal on-screen instructions

I dont know about you, but I dont have one of these things laying about in my garage .
Long story short folks, you need to go to Holden to reprogram keys.