MAFless Tune & my service managers opinion

[TraidMarc]

Well I've had the SS-V Redline for 2 months now, It had a KPM 2.5" catback put on at the dealership before delivery, I have a KPM/VCM OTR to go on but was going to wait until after the first service, but I came back home on R&R as I work away from home, and decided I would put the OTR on and just change it back for service. But now I have asked the service manager what I can do without affecting warranty, I told him I wanted to go MAFless as it will be done at OZ-Track and it is what Steve recommends, to my surprise he said he has no problems with it and it will only affect the warranty on the engine if the thing detonates(being to air/fuel ratios leaning out) so i said what if a lifter goes or a big end bearing, would this be considered to be from the extra KW's, to which he said that the only failures he has ever seen on the 6.0L are from bad oil, bad fuel, irregular service etc and that if a lifter goes it will probably be found to be a faulty lifter if every thing else is in order ie the oil and service and fuel. I run caltex 98pulp always so fuel shouldn't be an issue. He also said that they service the Illawarra's Highway patrol cars, that DO have a tune and run on E10 and have had no problems.
So to cut a long story short, MAFless tune here we come.

[tomholzy]

thats what he says now when youre a prospective customer and there isnt a problem...

[pjdm1980]

I'd want that in writing if they are anything like the dealers service managers that I've dealt with!

[acarmody]

Talk is cheap, signed agreement is more solid.

[TraidMarc]

Ok, 1. I 'am not a perspective customer, I have had the Car for 2 months. 2. yes It would be good to have it in writing.3.talk is cheap but I never said that I talked to the guy, I emailed him and I have the emails.........which brings me back to point 2, yes I have it in writing

[pjdm1980]

Good for you, we're not being smart it's genuine concern!

[hakhawk]

Ok, 1. I 'am not a perspective customer, I have had the Car for 2 months. 2. yes It would be good to have it in writing.3.talk is cheap but I never said that I talked to the guy, I emailed him and I have the emails.........which brings me back to point 2, yes I have it in writing

email would be iffy as a warranty source. id get it on a real letterhead'd paper, signed

[Bravotwozero]

Seems legit to me. Only way a warranty claim can be declined is if they can prove your mods caused the problem.

[TraidMarc]

I guess the bottom line for me is, if something goes I know that it won't necessarily void warranty, it may in some cases, but it's not a definite warranty void. The Tune is going to happen anyway, it was just a bit of piece of mind having consulted the service manager. The car is not a daily driver and is really just a toy, it has only done 350km's in 2 months and I expect that it will be lucky to do 5000km's over the next year as I am only home 1 week in 5 and when I am home I don't actually go anywhere except Woolworths & Bunnings!!! I plan on supercharging in the not to distant future, and if worse comes to worse and the engine detonates, it gives me a good reason to trow in an LS7!!!!!!!

[M500]

If you plan on putting on the blower, why all the fuss re the warranty?

[TraidMarc]

What fuss? I merely posted to inform of my service managers opinion, and the question was asked for piece of mind, and the answer to the question also relates to adding anything, basically if you change the exhaust, then the exhaust isn't covered under warranty, if I add a blower the blower isn't covered under warranty, and I doubt that a lifter or big end will be, but the drive line still would be unless they can prove that the blower caused the problem with the drive line. And the blower is in the future. In any case I just thought it might be useful information for someone hence the posting of it. It just answers some questions that I had, although not entirely too concerned, but I had the question and figured others might also have the question also.

[lease1]

If its Wilson's good luck. Notoriously bad for warranty matters, and I know that first hand. If it's Gateway, Ive heard they're just as bad.

[tomholzy]

Ok, 1. I 'am not a perspective customer, I have had the Car for 2 months. 2. yes It would be good to have it in writing.3.talk is cheap but I never said that I talked to the guy, I emailed him and I have the emails.........which brings me back to point 2, yes I have it in writing

You are a prospective customer, services = money!!

[RiCeY]

The dealer doesnt decide what is and isnt covered by warranty, Holden does.

If a Holden warranty rep comes out to view an engine claim and sees missing MAF and OTR etc he will say engine modified no warranty.

That being said it doesnt always happen that way but my point is there is the risk that a claim will be declined.

[one_and_only2004]

if I add a blower the blower isn't covered under warranty, and I doubt that a lifter or big end will be, but the drive line still would be unless they can prove that the blower caused the problem with the drive line.

I think you'll find that if you do break something it'll be a matter of you proving that the blower DIDN'T cause the problem.