OZTRACK, Anyone used them for a SSV, or SS?

[dmacey]

Just picked up my SSV on Friday last week and looking at some mods that can be done relatively quickly.

Been reading a few threads and it seems that Walkinshaw are overpriced, rebadged products with smaller gains, KPM have had some good reviews, Xforce hit and miss.

So my question is has anyone used Oztrack? whats your experience been?

This is what im looking at, I have the link in there as well for you to look at, not much info on the website.

Our full exhaust, Duspeed OTR and Tune on the dyno package is $3950.

This includes HPC coated 4 into 1s, metal cats and twin 2.5” or twin 3”. Duspeed OTR and dyno tune.

VE L98 345kw Bolt on power package (OZ345L98) by Oztrack Tuning - OZTRACK - VT-VE Specialists.

We have seen many of these cars make 270-280rwkw as Manuals. That’s like 350 engine kw.
Stock they are about 230rwkw

Thoughts??????

Cheers

[M500]

I wouldn't rate the duspeed OTR personally. Give VCM a call and compare their products. Great bunch of guys and very proffessional outfit.

[Lumps of cheese]

I use Oztrack and wouldn't take my car anywhere else. Made the 12 hours drive to penrith to have the work done and i'm rapt in the results. The otr in my opinion is the best one available but people are always going to have different opinions and i'm certainly not saying the others aren't any good, i just prefer his.

[toey@carfx]

I wouldn't rate the duspeed OTR personally. Give VCM a call and compare their products. Great bunch of guys and very proffessional outfit.

so whats your reasoning for this?

i had a duspeed otr on my old vy ss and it was great. the mark2 otr to fit ve/wm is getting great reviews and results. personally for my wm i will be getting the vcm otr only for looks as it is the most standard looking otr out there. if i wasnt going for a stealth look id go duspeed again in a heart beat.

end of the day there is many great shops in sydney, marranoe's, russo's, castle hill exhaust, sams performance, oztrack and others im sure. id go see them in person and discuss your goals and see who you like best. they all have the runs on the board and customers will always have a biased opinion based on there experiance. the 5 listed above in my opinion you wont go wrong with

[TraidMarc]

I think that price is using X-Force cat-back not sure what brand the headers were. for the price bang for buck it is good I think. I had KPM cat-back put on pre delivery at the dealership, and put a KPM/VCM OTR on myself, and recently flashed in a remote Mafless tune from Oz-Track, haven't had a chance to do any data logging yet, but just the flashed base tune made the car so much better, I have the auto and had the gearbox tune done as well and that is where the biggest difference is that I have noticed so far, but I haven't had a chance to drive it much yet as I am away at work in WA.
I found that the car from the dealership with the exhaust done was already good and very responsive, even though I had heard others on this forum say that they thought they were sluggish. After i put the OTR on the thing was a pig wasn't responsive at all, the gearbox was searching for gears before the car went any where when you put your foot down. This got better after driving it a few more times as the computer re adjusts, but it was better in my opinion before the OTR went on just in the way it accelerated and the gearbox picked gears. But I'm sure it would have got better with time, but I don't have time as I am home to drive the car only 1 week in 5, so I paid for the remote tuve with the EFIlive V2 from Steve at Oz Track. As I said I have only flashed in the base tune , once I do some datab logging runs that tune will get emailed back to Steve for extra refinement, but just the base tune made the thing take off like a cat being kicked in the arse from a standstill, but also when putting your foot down a bit in any gear it would find the right gear and use the torque to pull away, instead of finding a gear or 2 below what you actually need.

[M500]

so whats your reasoning for this?

i had a duspeed otr on my old vy ss and it was great. the mark2 otr to fit ve/wm is getting great reviews and results. personally for my wm i will be getting the vcm otr only for looks as it is the most standard looking otr out there. if i wasnt going for a stealth look id go duspeed again in a heart beat.

end of the day there is many great shops in sydney, marranoe's, russo's, castle hill exhaust, sams performance, oztrack and others im sure. id go see them in person and discuss your goals and see who you like best. they all have the runs on the board and customers will always have a biased opinion based on there experiance. the 5 listed above in my opinion you wont go wrong with

I had a duspeed on my ute for a while, the issues I encountered were that the position of the air-flow sensor (I think that is what it is called?) caused it to get water damage and stop working. Also after a long drive, I opened the bonnet and found the filter bracket missing and the filter sucked half way up the OTR towards the throttle body.

I agree with your comments about the workshops having some runs on the board, it is a matter of going in to see them to see who you feel most comfortable with. Like I said, I have had very good service with VCM and have no hesitation in recommending them.

[dmacey]

I use Oztrack and wouldn't take my car anywhere else. Made the 12 hours drive to penrith to have the work done and i'm rapt in the results. The otr in my opinion is the best one available but people are always going to have different opinions and i'm certainly not saying the others aren't any good, i just prefer his.

Cheers for your comment, They seem like they know what there doing over there.

[dmacey]

Thanks TraidMarc, Its interesting to hear about the evolution of your car and the difference you experienced each time you changed something. appreciate your reply.

[toey@carfx]

another good point i beleave about the vcm otr is when they experianced a manufacturing fault, the after sales service these guys did was amazing in my eyes. they went out of their way to rectify the problem on affected units.

[one_and_only2004]

I'll put a vote in for duspeed, mine hasn't sucked up a filter or fouled up a sensor - plus it looks awesome.

[CRANKN]

castle hill exhaust FTMFW

[M500]

If anyone is interested I my old duspeed PM me. You will need to get a new filter bracket and have the sensor checked but other than this it is in good condition

[TraidMarc]

I'll put a vote in for duspeed, mine hasn't sucked up a filter or fouled up a sensor - plus it looks awesome.

i really think that's what it comes down to, what you like the look of, I really liked the look of the duspeed when i first saw it, but then I saw the VCM and thought it looked way more stock and that's the way I went.

[Calais57]

Both OzTrack and Duspeed II are fantastic. Never heard of anyone else with any problems with a Duspeed. Both OzTrack and Duspeed have unbelievable after sales service as well. They take the time and are great guys.

Having said all that the is very little performance difference between the top few OTRs. iMHO the Duspeed looks the goods!

[Malus]

Steve is a great bloke, I've currently got a remote Autocal tune with him and he's been nothing but awesome. Really really fast on the tune updates, most of the time I send him the logged data and he'll have the revised tune back to me in 2-3hours. I've sent him data at 10pm once and got the revised tune back by 11pm. Once the I've done a few more km's in the Maloo I'm going to try and book it in for a Stealth II cam package.

[dmacey]

Steve is a great bloke, I've currently got a remote Autocal tune with him and he's been nothing but awesome. Really really fast on the tune updates, most of the time I send him the logged data and he'll have the revised tune back to me in 2-3hours. I've sent him data at 10pm once and got the revised tune back by 11pm. Once the I've done a few more km's in the Maloo I'm going to try and book it in for a Stealth II cam package.

Thanks for your comment, I get the impression they are on top of there game.

Its now between OzTrack, KPM, and HPF. Should know by next Saturday. Pictures and video to come.

Cheers

[Giant]

Hey guys, I know Mace has had great success with there remote custom tunning for the VE V6 and they are now offering the same service for the Gen III LS series. They have a limited time special price of $440 this is not a genric tune its fully customized via data logs you download to your laptop under real life driving conditions. These custome tunes can also be tuned for pretty much all mods like cams, blown etc.

They also have OTR options.

Check this thread out its worth a read. LSX LXX V8 Remote tuning service :).

Sams Performance at liverpool Sydney is also well worth giving a call they are at the forefront of Ls development and achieve great results: Sams Performance

[dmacey]

Thanks for the link, I have looked at MACE already.

Cheers

[TraidMarc]

Thanks for your comment, I get the impression they are on top of there game.

Its now between OzTrack, KPM, and HPF. Should know by next Saturday. Pictures and video to come.

Cheers

So do you mean for exhuast OTR or tune? or all? What have you decided on?

[dmacey]

All of the above mate, getting all speakers changed this saturday. 9 speakers coming out, 13 going in.

Honestly i'm leaning towards OzTrack, they seem like a professional outfit. Just waiting on advice from Insurer to make sure my car would be compliant with NSW legislation. They are about $500.00 more than HPF
1 x ECU – reprogram – MAFLESS tune
1 x Dual-3″ “No-Drone” exhaust system, mandrel bent stainless steel
1 x HPF over the radiator cold air intake
1 x High flow reusable air filter
1 x Intake Air Temp patch harness
1 x Intake Air Temp sensor
1 x Before and after dyno graph
1 x All labour to fit / dynotune / test
320KW $3495.00

the same more than KPM
KH01 Entry Level Package: Increase to 320 Fwkw
KPM SLC 2.5 Inch Cat Exhaust Back System
Stainless Steel Performance Exhaust System
KPM Cold Air Induction System
KPM ECU Performance Reprogram
Cost: $3495.00

But they get more power around 350KW

OTR is under question also DB reading from exhaust, but yeah Steven is definitely the front runner.

Cheers

[TraidMarc]

All of the above mate, getting all speakers changed this saturday. 9 speakers coming out, 13 going in.

Honestly i'm leaning towards OzTrack, they seem like a professional outfit. Just waiting on advice from Insurer to make sure my car would be compliant with NSW legislation. They are about $500.00 more than HPF
1 x ECU – reprogram – MAFLESS tune
1 x Dual-3″ “No-Drone” exhaust system, mandrel bent stainless steel
1 x HPF over the radiator cold air intake
1 x High flow reusable air filter
1 x Intake Air Temp patch harness
1 x Intake Air Temp sensor
1 x Before and after dyno graph
1 x All labour to fit / dynotune / test
320KW $3495.00

the same more than KPM
KH01 Entry Level Package: Increase to 320 Fwkw
KPM SLC 2.5 Inch Cat Exhaust Back System
Stainless Steel Performance Exhaust System
KPM Cold Air Induction System
KPM ECU Performance Reprogram
Cost: $3495.00

But they get more power around 350KW

OTR is under question also DB reading from exhaust, but yeah Steven is definitely the front runner.

Cheers

I left the Maf in place but Steve did a Mafless tune.
If you go KPM who is doing it? Or are you going to Adelaide?
I'm just about to get the Stereo done as well Focal Kevlar series speaker upgrade

[dmacey]

I left the Maf in place but Steve did a Mafless tune.
If you go KPM who is doing it? Or are you going to Adelaide?
I'm just about to get the Stereo done as well Focal Kevlar series speaker upgrade

You see, thats why OzTrack are at the top of the list, HPF are in Melbourne and KPM are in Adelaide as you know.
easier to go out the western Sydney than into another state.

As for the stereo,
6" Splits in the front and rear doors (Pioneer)
6" 3 ways in the rear parcel shelf (Pioneer) if they fit or will go 8" or 6x9 if they can fit
Centre speaker waiting till its gets pulled out and will replace with same size I think its a 3.5" not sure if a 3" or 4" will get in there.
Digital Amp (Pioneer)
Mono Amp (MTX)
JL 12" in ported box
Dynamat the doors and rear shelf (only were speakers go to stop rattle) not full coverage.

Dave

[TraidMarc]

One thing to consider as far as your insurance goes, I let mine know about the cat back, but havent asked them about the OTR, but I took the stock intake off, put the VCM/KPM OTR on and left the MAF in place, but got a Mafless tune. So if I have a prang I can always get it towed, take the OTR off, put the stocky back on and none the wiser. The VE Maff isn't that restrictive, so I left it in place. If I got really paranoid I could flash the original tune back in, but I highly doubt that the insurer is going to plug in and see what tune I have. It took about 2 hours to put the OTR on, and now that I have done it I reckon I could change it back in less than that. And yes they reckon you can do it in twenty minutes, but they do it all the time so I have no doubts that they can.

[dmacey]

One thing to consider as far as your insurance goes, I let mine know about the cat back, but havent asked them about the OTR, but I took the stock intake off, put the VCM/KPM OTR on and left the MAF in place, but got a Mafless tune. So if I have a prang I can always get it towed, take the OTR off, put the stocky back on and none the wiser. The VE Maff isn't that restrictive, so I left it in place. If I got really paranoid I could flash the original tune back in, but I highly doubt that the insurer is going to plug in and see what tune I have. It took about 2 hours to put the OTR on, and now that I have done it I reckon I could change it back in less than that. And yes they reckon you can do it in twenty minutes, but they do it all the time so I have no doubts that they can.

Im with NRMA, and they will cover any modes so long as the car is road legal and able to obtain registration hence the wait on the OTR, tune is fine, exhaust depends on noise generated and 3-3500 revs.

[TraidMarc]

Im with NRMA, and they will cover any modes so long as the car is road legal and able to obtain registration hence the wait on the OTR, tune is fine, exhaust depends on noise generated and 3-3500 revs.

Well just a little heads up, and it has been covered on this forum quite a lot, but sometimes it is hard to find what you want at first, but removeng the MAF sensor is illegal in NSW, and Adelaide that I know of, that is why KPM keep it in place, but having said that, you can like I said, keep it in place and Steve can still give you the same tune(Mafless) and but the dus OTR is not made to retain the MAF. Thats why I went VCM/KPM but still got the Oz track tune. You don't have to go one package or the other, you can get the VCM Otr on ebay, vcm and KPM OTR's are the same thing, and I'm sure Steve at Oz track can put it on and do the rest of the pack(exhaust and tune), or put in on yourself and then get then take it to Steve.
And as far as the exhaust Decibels go, no one is going to tell you that there exhaust is louder than that, if you tell them that it needs to be under that. the only way to really know is to put it on and measure it!!! Bang for your buck I would go with the Oztrack exhaust....But I wanted the KPM but money wasn't an issue.
Remember you are the customer and everyone has a product to sell, but you can mix an match, Oztrack isn't going to say get the whole shebang or don't bother.