VE won't start

[Z3RO]

Ok guys help me out here. I had my VE serviced today by a friend and all we did was oil and filter. At the same time we did tried doing the pulleys, but the Harmonic balancer wouldn't come off and we gave up and just put the belt back on. Friend said to post here and chain might have slipped back 1 click. We haven't done anything at all to the car.

When I start it it sounds like it does when it does the starter motor thing where it ticks but never starts, if I give it pumps of the pedal it starts after about 10 seconds and the engine sounds like it is going to blow up. It gives off a really loud noise from the engine. I am at a total loss about what the hell it could be?

Please guys I need some help.

P.S Battery is fine, terminals are fine and everything is connected correctly.

[Potta9]

Stop touching things and get it seen to by a mechanic.

[Z3RO]

Looking for a more productive comment than this Potta, got any help to offer?

[burleighboy86]

I'm by no means "mechanically inclined", but maybe when you stuffed around with the harmonic balancer, you damaged the sensors in behind it or something? Personally, I'd be getting a mechanic to take a look.

[Lumps of cheese]

Mate, get it seen to by a mechanic pronto. And stop letting your mate touch your car.

[m1lky]

Ticking starter is almost always a flat battery. Try jump it even if you dont think its flat, doesnt hurt to try.

Or will run as long as your giving it gas? Your post is a little hard to decifer
Is the check engine light on?
Check ht leads are tight on plugs
Check nothing's been unplugged (ie airflow meter etc)

I can't see how you could have possibly slipped a timing chain tooth.

In what way does it sound like it will blow up?

[Potta9]

When I start it it sounds like it does when it does the starter motor thing where it ticks but never starts, if I give it pumps of the pedal it starts after about 10 seconds and the engine sounds like it is going to blow up. It gives off a really loud noise from the engine.

P.S Battery is fine, terminals are fine and everything is connected correctly.

Sorry but there's not much else I can reccomend to help you with. You say the starter motor ticks and won't start (flat battery or starter solenoid). But then in the next sentence you say if you pump the throttle it starts and makes horrible sounds.

All I can say is either get it taken to Holden or check you haven't broken any wire or sensors when working in the bay.

[RiCeY]

How would the chain have slipped a tooth?

How do you know the battery is fine?

[Z3RO]

Mate, get it seen to by a mechanic pronto. And stop letting your mate touch your car.

Mate IS a mechanic, that is why I let him touch it. No one that isn't qualified is touching my car.

Ticking starter is almost always a flat battery. Try jump it even if you dont think its flat, doesnt hurt to try.

Or will run as long as your giving it gas? Your post is a little hard to decifer
Is the check engine light on?
Check ht leads are tight on plugs
Check nothing's been unplugged (ie airflow meter etc)

I can't see how you could have possibly slipped a timing chain tooth.

In what way does it sound like it will blow up?

I don't have a clue WTF is wrong with it, never heard a car sound like this. It sounds likes like a squeal in the engine when I get it to start.

Air flow was unplugged but plugged back in. Now I have no idea.

Sorry but there's not much else I can reccomend to help you with. You say the starter motor ticks and won't start (flat battery or starter solenoid). But then in the next sentence you say if you pump the throttle it starts and makes horrible sounds.

All I can say is either get it taken to Holden or check you haven't broken any wire or sensors when working in the bay.

I might have to have RACQ tow it to a mechanic on Monday. I will have them tow it to someone that specializes in Holden but won't charge me Holden's obscene prices.

How would the chain have slipped a tooth?

How do you know the battery is fine?

Battery is fine because the car will fire with accelerator. being pumped and all accessories work as per usual.

[Z3RO]

I called RACQ to come out and "look at it". I will get them to scan tool it and see if there is any faults or what is wrong.

[Wongy295]

If your mate is a mechanic...get him to look at it?

Just sayin'

[Z3RO]

RACQ have no idea what is wrong with it. They said it's going to have to go to a mechanic. I have free towing up to 21kms in diameter from my house. I want to take it to someone that isn't Holden to fix it. They said all plugs are in, no fault codes read and the timing chain is fine. It started and the guy said it sounds like I am getting firing out of the upper inlet manifold.

Fingers crossed it is only a cheap fix.

[StoneX]

I don't have a clue WTF is wrong with it, never heard a car sound like this. It sounds likes like a squeal in the engine when I get it to start.

IN the engine? Or the belts maybe?

[RiCeY]

ok be very specific here, what did you mate touch/remove/move/unplug?

[m1lky]

I think it probably has a vac leak and the noise is probably a belt.

Will it idle on its own? Ie Will it continue to idle if you take your foot off the gas?

Can you get it to continue to idle using the gas pedal?

Check for sanity sake that your oil is at the full level and your not running ridiculously low oil.

[Z3RO]

IN the engine? Or the belts maybe?

I am not sure exactly but sounds like the engine and not a belt. And at the top of the engine and/or front

ok be very specific here, what did you mate touch/remove/move/unplug?

Throttle plug on right side of throttle and MAF plug, both were put back on.

I think it probably has a vac leak and the noise is probably a belt.

Will it idle on its own? Ie Will it continue to idle if you take your foot off the gas?

Can you get it to continue to idle using the gas pedal?

Check for sanity sake that your oil is at the full level and your not running ridiculously low oil.

Heaps of oil. Was replaced with Penrite fully synthetic oil and oil filter replaced. Fuel level is about 33% and coolant is about 75%

I have to give it huge amounts of pedal just to get it to actually tick over, and when I do is when it makes that horribly loud noise and idles for about 10 seconds with my foot on the pedal, chokes and dies.

[RiCeY]

Why did he need to remove those plugs? Did he attempt to clean the throttle body?

[Jonno]

Can u reset the ecu and try start it?

how to reset ve commodore sv6 ecu?

[RiCeY]

I dont think you can reset a VE ECM by simply disconnecting power from the ECM as it uses EPROM which retains data even when power supply is removed.

[Z3RO]

Why did he need to remove those plugs? Did he attempt to clean the throttle body?

We were going to take the upper inlet manifold off to change the plugs but didn't bother doing it.

[Z3RO]

I took my car into APC at Underwood today, they had the car since about 12:30 and by 5 they still had no idea what it was. They said they will call me tomorrow... Not good ay. They said my timing chan can stretch and that is a possibility. Anyway tomorrow it seems I will know. Damn it this is not going to be cheap.

[glennho]

sorry to hear that mate.hope all goes well with the repair:-)

[Z3RO]

sorry to hear that mate.hope all goes well with the repair:-)

Thanks, so do I.

[Sabbath']

You sure your mate didnt unplug any of the plugs off the back of the inlet manifold, or knock any vac lines loose and the squeeling you're hearing isnt a vac leak?

Also, what is the battery voltage?

[Z3RO]

You sure your mate didnt unplug any of the plugs off the back of the inlet manifold, or knock any vac lines loose and the squeeling you're hearing isnt a vac leak?

Also, what is the battery voltage?

To be honest mate I don't know, I only seen him unplug the 2. The noise that I am hearing I have never heard before.