Camaro Brembo brake upgrade on VE SS
Has anyone completed a Camaro Brembo brake upgrade on a VE yet. I believe the front calipers are a straight bolt on but I am unsure of what disc to use. Also is anyone producing kits to fit the rear calipers. I also think there is a handbrake mod that needs doing if someone can elaborate on this for me. Any other information would be great.
Blown VT LS1 450rwhp
If you do some reasarch on this fourm and a couple of others all the info is out there! I personal wouldnt fit the brakes pictured in the above photo as you have to drill the mounting holes out on your car.
I fitted the silver brembos which dont require any modding at all. Straight bolt on!
Yep, what VTSS350 said.
Have you bought these yet? Look into 04-07 CTS-V calipers... they use 4 piston brembos which are direct fittment to the VE with no drilling out the knuckle. You should be able to get front and rear CTS-V calipers new delivered with all the required gear for around $850 from the states (or cheaper 2nd hand).
Which ever setup you go, you need to make sure your wheels clear HSV brakes (so not all 19" rims will fit).
Cheers for the info, do the CTS-V rear calipers bolt straight up? also do you know what discs are used. I have tried to search this but I think I must be challenged using this function.
Uses same front redline discs in the GXP HSVs, and a VE HSV rear disc. Only mod is trimming rear dust shield as caliper is obviously bigger, and the pad needs to be trimmed (or you can go through GSLrally off here and have the pad trimmed 4mm for you for a little extra if using QFM pads).Originally Posted by Cocopopz
Here's a good read, goes through your first post on camaro calipers vs the CTS-V setup (remember this is a US site, so the cost of HSV discs is a lot less here):
w w w .g8board.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45599
Wow that link was so useful. I contaced GSLrally and he is supplying practacly everthing I need including pads and discs f&r. Im going a head with the camaro caliper. Having to ream out the nuckle is not much of a problem for me. One thing I am a little confused with still is if you need to used brakets for the rear caliper when using a hsv style rear rotors?
If you ever had an accident and insurance company picked up that non standard brakes were fitted and holes drilled out you'd have 0% chance of payout....
You'd be surprised how far they go if they can save 30 000 - 40 000 for their employer !
Blown VT LS1 450rwhp
Its not a problem for me to do either but what if you have an accident or want to put the car back to standard for sale?
Thats why I decided to use the silver brembos as they are straight bolt up not mods required!
Yeah, i've done a bit of research on the pros/cons for this I I just went through it all. Just waiting on discs etc to arrive before fitting up.
Re: rear brackets, you don't for the CTS-V. I'm pretty sure you don't for the chev calipers as the HSV rotor is expensive compared to what they can get in the US, plus they have to trim around 4mm of pad... but with the bracket they can go a bigger rotor and no trim of the pad... might be wrong, been a while since I looked into chev caliper so can't quiet remember.
Drilling out the knuckle, and the possibility of the e-brake shoe busting down the track meaning weeks of waiting for a replacement (happened to a few in the states) means I was turned off these... plus the fact they have "chevrolet" writen on the caliper was too much of a wannk factor for me (sorry to offend if that's your thing!). If I was willing to drill out the knuckle, I would have gone the '10 CTS-V 6 piston fronts for a little more... see here!: w w w .camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71401
Wow I am really amazed how many people are scared of there insurance company, I have had cars with more mods than this and they have always been happy to payout. Might be a different story if you kill someone though. GSLrally have front are rear discs for dirt cheap at the moment and have custom rear rotors made with a different wiper slot to suit there pads. I see there are of people are buying these calipers brand new from the states (Camaro/CTS-V) But does anyone know from where? I found this place but I typed in what I though was the correct p/n but at this price it cant be correct for one brand new Brembo caliper http://www.gmpartsgiant.com/parts/gm...-89047742.html I also need pin kit and bolts. If I can buy the parts new I might even use CTS-V front calipers and Camaro rears (even though I believe the rears are the same, I have seen these bolted on) Does anyone have P/n's for Camaro and CTS-v calipers, pin kits and bolts. I will just use the four spots at the moment then I might upgrade to 6 spots and sell on the fronts as a kit. The Chevy logo will be removed.......
I also found this, but now I belive this is only for Camaro SS rear rotors that also require hand brake mod.
Rear Brembo Bracket 3D model file *here* - Pontiac G8 Forum: G8 Forums - G8Board.com
It's not just insurance, it's the possibilty weakening that area if you don't drill perfectly... something i'm not prepared to mess with.
See below, a lot of time saved for anyone looking into this with part numbers
CTS-V 04-07:
1 X Front Caliper – 89047726
1 X Front Caliper – 89047727
1 X Rear Caliper – 89047742
1 X Rear Caliper – 89047743
2 X Caliper pin kit - 89047711
2 X Caliper pin kit – 89047728
4 X Caliper bolt – 11515778 (I went these bolts as they are slightly shorter than what everyone in the states runs which means you don't need to pack in washers)
Discs:
DBA42604sL/R <-- front redline slotted
DBA42031sLS/R <-- rear HSV slotted
Pads:
Front: Anything that fits a 04-07 CTS-V, 09 G8 GXP (Redline), 2010-2012 Camaro SS
Rear: Anything that fits a 04-2012 CTS-V, or 2010-2012 Camaro SS (but requirs about 3mm trimmed for overhang)
If you want a super reliable person to deal with in the US, I went through Greg as Paceperformace. Gave me some great advice and always got straight back to me. Took 1.5 weeks for him to get the parts and post to my door. PM me for his direct e-mail if you want.
cheers for the pn, just saved me a lot of time. I have contacted Greg at pace performance and have acquired a very good on 4 and 6 spot front calipers. There is another question that you might be able to help me with. If I used the CTS-V 6 spot calipers is the front disc the same as the HSV models?
I have just put fronts on using slotted dba 4000 rotors.
I have been dealing a lot with Greg at Pace for the last few days and am ordering a few sets of rears for people. GSL are supplying me the correct dba 4000 rotor to match the front. It is a HSV rotor which needs to be re-cast to have the standard slots not the arced slots on the normal HSV ones. Have a look at the thread in the VE ride section for my car and it will show the fronts.
How well did these bolts work. Im getting these rear Brembos but need the correct bolts.
Haven't fitted. Pace performance in the US that sells kits etc told me to use the front shorter bolts and had pictures showing the difference.
Looks like everyone uses the existing bolts for the rears
That part number is actually a Holden part number for front redline brembos. That's what I've ordered from my Holden dealer
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I have upgraded my front rotors and callipers on the VE with the 'Holmart' Brembo upgrade which i believe is the same as the Camaro front brakes (4 spot brembos with 355mm rotors).
It was a simple swap that took me just over an hour, the callipers should bolt on to the original mounts as the holes should line up. Use a soft faced mallet to shake the rotor loose as they can get stuck on with water and surface rust.
The VE uses the same master cylinder in v6 and v8 version, so there is no real issue there as some previous models. I dont know about the rear brake swap though.
Best of luck.
My fronts are on already. I'm talking about the brembo rears I have ordered
So my rear calipers, pads, pins etc arrived from the states today. Need to paint and then on the car. What I understand with the pads/rotor issue is that the pads overhang slightly. You can get them trimmed (or GSL is going to sell them already trimmed) but you don't have to. I do know you are meant to swap the crossover pipe and nipples but again I don't believe this completely necessary
The larger rear rotor (ie. the Camaro equivalent) won't work on the VE as the handbrake drum offset and size is different. Pretty much just run the HSV rear, and either have the pad overhang, or grab one of our custom made pads to suit. HPX are $119, A1RM are $179. Fronts to match are $110 and $149 respectively.
With regards to rotors, easiest option on both is the 4000 Series Front to suit Redline, which are currently on special, $150.15 each, and then we've got straight slot HSV rear 4000 series rotors in stock which we had made to match, $231 each.
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Greg, above, is who I have told all 'my' purchasers to get their rotors from. If you check out the pics of my fronts in my ride thread, you will see what we are doing for the rears.
Other guys have been using the HSV styled curved slotted rotors,
Greg and the guys at GSL are the best
Hi everyone
I have a spare pair of 4 pot Redline Brembo callipers, can someone confirm that these will bolt straight onto the rear of a GXP Maloo and that you have to go to a 350mm rear disc (plus cut down dust shield)?
No.....
The brembo calipers that fit nicely for the rear are CTS-V calipers
Hi Bonners
Where do you get the CTS-V callipers from?
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