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    The op has 328rwkw, why the #### does he need more power than that on the street?

    OP don't try and say that you are not going to use this illegally, as you have said you want to hide the setup, and would love to light your 245mm wide tyres up on the street!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverVH View Post
    Thanks for the insult, I guess its to be expected on this forum.

    Firstly, NOS is a brand of Nitrous kit, nitrous isn't refered to as NOS. Why does everyone take wikipedia as gospel. It's the same as saying a permanent marker is a "texta".

    Now the reason I asked you (in a non-smartass way unlike yourself), is because there seems to be a huge mis-conception as to why. The only reason why nitrous is not permitted in street vehicles is because nitrous is a "class 2 dangerous good".

    Without boring everyone with details, pretty much it can only be packed, stored and carried in an authorised way, must have a dangerous good placard fitted to the vehicle, must be properly trained in the correct method of handling the dangerous good and must get authorisation.

    The reason why the law's have been amended from allowing the fitment of a nitrous kit minus the bottle, to outright banning of all kits and associated hardware is to discourage potential users full stop.

    Up until the 1980's, nitrous could legally be used on road vehicles by applying for a "nitrous permit". The most common use for the permit was for people towing heavy loads with their vehicles (caravaning around Australia etc.)
    Are we reading the same thread here?

    You got the insult because you were being smart... asking me a rhetorical question for an answer obvious to anyone else reading. NOS = Dangerous = Illegal. As to whether insults are to be "expected" on this forum is a completely different problem that you need to deal with.... not me, but I reckon that comment of yours would insulting to a lot of people around here who do give their time to try to help (like me). But maybe more tact on your part in the future may limit all these expectations of insults headed your way. Just a thought.

    Also, you need to open your eyes and ears to life around you a little more. People use brands to refer to common items every single day.... NOS, Texta, Bio, Kleenex, Hoover etc etc etc. All acceptable in explaining an item or action. Just because you obviously dont, doesnt mean everyone else shouldnt. It's a common every day occurrence, and attempting to correct me on such a trivial matter was in my opinion you being smart. It was irrelevant to the point I was making. You knew exactly what I was talking about. You didnt infer any other item so why the correction? Did you want a gold star or something?

    Reread your post. Maybe you didnt intend to be a smartass (or maybe you did- I dont care either way), but I believe I responded in a perfectly reasonable manner.

    As to your history lesson on nitrous, it seems logical to a point.... but I disagree with the notion that it's the "only reason why" it's not permitted in a street vehicle. It's not just the storage and transportation of the gas itself, it's the use as well. The reasoning behind this is because every single car out there is carrying "highly flammable liquid" in it every day (petrol!)... yet no signs are required on the back, no permits, no training, no placards etc. What you're talking about is the safe transportation of a dangerous good. It's the use that I think was the determining factor... not the transportation. But either way, it's illegal for good reason.

    As for justifying it's use in the past, all good and well. But that's why its in the past. Up until the 1970's seat belts werent mandatory either. As time goes on we get smarter. Well that's the theory.

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    Has anyone found the act that prohibits the installation of NOS?

    I'm not talking about a excerpt from the colour pamphlet down a the rego office. I'm talking about the Act, and subsection.

    I can find it.
    Is this it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmacey View Post
    Has anyone found the act that prohibits the installation of NOS?

    I'm not talking about a excerpt from the colour pamphlet down a the rego office. I'm talking about the Act, and subsection.

    I can find it.
    think this might help...

    National Code Of Practice Vehicle Standards Bulletin 14 (VSB 14) Latest Jan 2011

    This is the latest working document approved by the federal government and accepted by ALL states subject to each state govt ratifying to their applicable legislation.

    Vehicle Standards Bulletin 14 (VSB 14) link is -
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    Seatbelts for Kids
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    National Code of Practice for Light Vehicle Construction and Modification (NCOP)


    VSB 14 is a "live" document and will continue to be revised and updated as required.
    The documents listed below form Version 2 of VSB 14 and are now available for free download in PDF format.
    VSB 14 essentially provides the technical requirements that need to be met when modifying or constructing a vehicle. It does not cover the administrative requirements of each State and Territory.


    your query re NOS -
    from here http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roa...jan2011_v3.pdf it says in Section 2.14 :
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    2.14 NITROUS OXIDE INSTALLATIONS
    Nitrous oxide injection systems must not be fitted. This prohibition includes a partial installation or
    a disconnectable nitrous oxide system that is fitted to the vehicle ready for use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    think this might help...

    National Code Of Practice Vehicle Standards Bulletin 14 (VSB 14) Latest Jan 2011

    This is the latest working document approved by the federal government and accepted by ALL states subject to each state govt ratifying to their applicable legislation.

    Vehicle Standards Bulletin 14 (VSB 14)
    Vehicle Standards Bulletins
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    Vehicle Regulation Related Links
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    Seatbelts for Kids
    Vehicle Safety
    Vehicle Standards Bulletins
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    National Code of Practice for Light Vehicle Construction and Modification (NCOP)


    VSB 14 is a "live" document and will continue to be revised and updated as required.
    The documents listed below form Version 2 of VSB 14 and are now available for free download in PDF format.
    VSB 14 essentially provides the technical requirements that need to be met when modifying or constructing a vehicle. It does not cover the administrative requirements of each State and Territory.

    your query re NOS -
    from here http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roa...jan2011_v3.pdf
    it says in Section 2.14 :
    2.14 NITROUS OXIDE INSTALLATIONS
    Nitrous oxide injection systems must not be fitted. This prohibition includes a partial installation or
    a disconnectable nitrous oxide system that is fitted to the vehicle ready for use.
    Cheers, but i have read all this already, im talking about the specific legislation that prohibits the installation and use of such a system.

    The info above, is a statement pertaining to it illegality, not the law by which it can be enforced.

    Thanks again though.

    Dave
    Is this it?

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    I just read someones post before that said nitrous "blew up" when someone lit a smoke. Nitrous oxide is a non flammable gas.

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    I have listened to all the posts 'for and against' the idea of me putting nitrous oxide on my car.

    Thankyou to everyone who contributed, based on all the information I though 'stuff it', and installed an 200hp single shot nitrous system in my car, it cost me $990 dollars for the kit (a Zex kit), and i must say, its the best thing i have ever done.

    Its surprising just how many people actually have nitrous installed onto their cars, its alot more than you would think, mainly because its so easy to get away with.I must say that instant shot of horsepower is amazing. The first time i used i was in 4th doing about 120, i activated the nitrous and stood on it it accelerated to about 140 then the revs ran right up with the cam and delivered the full load of power basically lighting up the tyres from 140 to well over 200 .... fastest burnout i have ever done and i must say it didn't at all feel dangerous or scary, i highly recommend the nitrous.

    Thanks again guys

    Best money I have ever spent, the only regret i have is not installing it sooner!!!

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    `another loser on the roads of australia who thinks there above the law cant wait to here you bitch when you get defected , i for one will piss my self laughing you fool . nitros on the streets is for little boys with little dicks .
    the bigger the wave the longer the hang time , free ride jet skiing

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    Quote Originally Posted by iUte View Post
    Best money I have ever spent, the only regret i have is not installing it sooner!!!
    any dyno figures?? sounds the goods. What I like about N2O is because it's not on all the time it's hard to get used to lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iUte View Post
    The first time i used i was in 4th doing about 120, i activated the nitrous and stood on it it accelerated to about 140 then the revs ran right up with the cam and delivered the full load of power basically lighting up the tyres from 140 to well over 200 .... fastest burnout i have ever done and i must say it didn't at all feel dangerous or scary, i highly recommend the nitrous.
    What a dead set tosser.

    Oh well, all we can hope for is you dont take some poor innocent people with you one day. No great loss otherwise by the sounds of it.
    Enjoy the NOS bro .

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    No dyno figures yet, but definitely worth the effort of installing. Just make sure you option for the bigger bottle

    There is a good reason it's called laughing gas!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iUte View Post
    No dyno figures yet, but definitely worth the effort of installing. Just make sure you option for the bigger bottle

    There is a good reason it's called laughing gas!!
    how well us your drive train holding up? I assume you've strengthened internals? Considering it's already 330rwkw. haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by iUte View Post
    I have listened to all the posts 'for and against' the idea of me putting nitrous oxide on my car.

    Thankyou to everyone who contributed, based on all the information I though 'stuff it', and installed an 200hp single shot nitrous system in my car, it cost me $990 dollars for the kit (a Zex kit), and i must say, its the best thing i have ever done.

    Its surprising just how many people actually have nitrous installed onto their cars, its alot more than you would think, mainly because its so easy to get away with.I must say that instant shot of horsepower is amazing. The first time i used i was in 4th doing about 120, i activated the nitrous and stood on it it accelerated to about 140 then the revs ran right up with the cam and delivered the full load of power basically lighting up the tyres from 140 to well over 200 .... fastest burnout i have ever done and i must say it didn't at all feel dangerous or scary, i highly recommend the nitrous.

    Thanks again guys

    Best money I have ever spent, the only regret i have is not installing it sooner!!!
    Too much money, not enough brains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett_jjj View Post
    I just read someones post before that said nitrous "blew up" when someone lit a smoke. Nitrous oxide is a non flammable gas.
    Looked pretty flammable in fast n furious Haha.

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    Too much money how? Nitrous is the cheapest way of boosting hp? You have no idea what you are talking about.

    Fail

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    I think we're done here so I'm going to close this before it turns into a Fast and Furious NOS fueled flame war.


    (Yes I am aware of the many technical errors of the sentence above.)

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