Headlights allways ON.. How do I turn them off?
Hi,
My wife has a '08 SV6 wagon, and the headlights are constantly on....and it's starting to annoy the crap out of me....
She rang holden and they told her that it is because the car is an ex telstra car, and they had all their cars wired to run the headlights all the time?? BUT they can fix it for $120.
Does this sound right? I would have thought that it might just be a couple tweeks with the settings on the dash?
Is there a simple way I can fix this myself?? or should I just spend the money?
Thanks!
it shouldnt be too hard to find where theyve wired it to full time on.... id pull out the on /off swith. it should just pop out. they have a clip on each side ithink.. check that part first... id say thats where they would do it... easy to fix... if not there id follow ya light cables back to fuse box.. u will find where theyve taped up their connections... i personally wouldnt pay for them to fix it... but if ya dont have time and got spare cash then yeh thats a fair cost..(aslong as they dont go overcharging) lol
Thanks for that. I'll try to get the switch out and see if thay have done anything there.
F O R U M W A R R I O R
Its not wiring, its software. The BCM has to be reprogrammed in order to turn off the daytime running light feature.
Silver Certified.
Depending on where you purchased the car from. Regardless of being an ex telstra car the software should have been returned to factory standard before being sold by a licenced motor dealer. It's like buying an ex Police vehicle, they are returned to factory spec before sale. Additional wiring looms/batteries are removed / overhead interior light panel with switching is changed to standard (they remove the one which has the stealth button in the middle) and programming of no standard settings is changed. At least they do that here to AFP cars before going to auction.Originally Posted by VWSV6
If you purchased it from a Holden dealer I would be insisting they change the BCM software back to factory standard free of charge to you..
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I had a VT commodore that was an ex telstra car that always had the lights on, but i'm not sure if it was done the same way in the VT (the VT was probably hardwired to stay on when the switch is in the off position). The VE uses a processor and canbus system throughout the vehicle, so the programming and software play a bigger part in how features work, rather than hardwire the switch, it can just be programmed to stay on.
Ask your delaer if you aren't sure or talk to RiCey, but dont go cuting and modifying any wiring (you'll just make a mess of your switch wiring for no reason).
F O R U M W A R R I O R
Problem is if he didnt purchase from a Holden dealer he'll be hard pressed to find one that will reprogram for free. Even if it was bought from one the DRL feature wouldnt be considered a negative feature requiring rectifying for free even if it is annoying to the OP.
That being said theres no harm in trying for a free fix.
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i think ex telstra cars go straight to auction,brother bought a hiace and telstra don't even remove/reuse the internal racking and roof racks.
The Mad Dutchman
Why do Telstra cars need lights always on does anyone know?
Donating Member
More visibility = less accidents = less insurance claims? Just a guess
just part of there safety program
The Mad Dutchman
Again all hypothectical. If purchased from a Holden used cars lot. Did he knowingly buy an ex telstra fleet vehicle? Did the sales person inform him of this? Was it explained that some of the vehicels features (like the headlights are always on when driving and can not be turned off) of this vehicle were different to what the vehicles user manual states?
This is in no way directed at those on this forum whom work for Holden. I don't wish to come over as being too anti holden, it's hard not to when you've had to constantly deal with their B/S like I have.
I bought an ex Telstra VE, had the lights on, it's definitely not a wiring mod it's in the computer. Took it to the local dealer and they charged/ripped me $105.00 to take it back to normal.
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I fail to see the problem. NRMA has consitently proven that driving with lights on increases your visibility to others and lowers your risk of having an accident that's someone else's fault.
Daytime running lights is a GREAT feature and should be standard on all cars. Hell, it's law on a motorbike and there's an ADR that specifies all motorbikes must have the headlight on at all times from factory!
Why on EARTH would you want to disable this?
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Exhaust Guru
Just some info to correct a bit of misinformation in this thread.
A licensed dealer does NOT have to inform a potential buyer of who the previous owner was, in fact, it is a breach of the privacy act. A potential buyer can look in the books and see for themselves, but the dealer or salesperson is bound by law not to disclose that information themselves.
Also, a vehicle used by a government department does not have to be returned to factory spec before it is sold either, all that happens is the department specific accessories and signage is removed. It is up to individual dealers whether or not they do it.
If you don't wish to spend the $105 at Holden, I can tell you how to do it.
But just be advised that if you value your time at more than McDonalds do, you will be better off at Holden.
Last edited by mint; 09-02-2012 at 07:48 PM.
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Thanks for all the reply's.
We bought the car at a government auction, so we weren't supprised that it was owned by telstra. Not that we have a problem with that as the car looked real nice (it looks better now with tinted windows , and being lowered) it has lowish K's, spotless interior etc etc. And best of all my wife loved it.
I just don't like the lights on all the time because in my opinion it looks stupid driving with the lights on during the day.
I don't mind paying to have it fixed either, but like most people, I hate being ripped by sacks of crap car dealers. (no offence to any sacks of crap car dealers that may be reading this :-))
To me $120.00 to do a couple of tweeks on the computer sounds like a rip off, allthough, I have no idea at exactly what is required to fix it so $120.00 might be well justified. That's why in my original post I asked if that price sounds right. I was hoping that there might be some sort of code I could put in to change the settings.
F O R U M W A R R I O R
Definitely not a code you can put in, they use a programmer. Not sure if VE's use the Tech2 also, but it's like a $8000 unit, they gotta make their money on it somehow.
F O R U M W A R R I O R
All VEs are Tech2 compatible for reading DTCs but later models require a laptop and MDI for programming.
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I think you will find that this was dropped a couple of years ago.
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I think you will find you are wrong. But honestly I am not 100% sure.
Either way, headlights on - on any vehicle - increases the safety and lowers the risk of an accident. That's a proven fact.
It is not a proven fact in Australia due to the high level of light in Australia. This was the very reason (no significant reduction in accidents) that brought about the deletion of the headlights on requirement for motorcycles, and in fact stopped the introduction of compulsory headlights on for cars which was being considered.
In fact the motorcycle lights on was removed far earlier than I realised. See the following extract from the legislation report.
In 1992 Australia introduced mandatory "hard-wired"
headlights for motorcycles - low-beam headlights
were required to illuminate whenever the engine was
running. This requirement was rescinded in 1996, due
mainly to pressure from motorcycle lobby groups:
"The Motorcycle Council of NSW (MCC) counts
amongst its major achievements... Convincing the
Federal government in 1996 to provide an alternative
to ADR 19/01 (requiring hard wired lights on for
motorcycles) in the form of ADR 19/02 (which does
not require hard wired headlights)" (MCC website).
back to the original question:
at the risk of stating the obvious; the VE has an automatic headlight system. There is a sensor at the front of the dashboard, where it meets the windscreen. If that's covered, your lights will be on whenever the ignition is on. I find that mine turns the lights on whenever I park at home: apparently my parking-place is very shady. I don't know if you can adjust the sensitivity of the system. The headlight switch has a couple of other positions, but I haven't tried them.
On the safety issues: on long trips, I cover my sensor, so as to have the lights on all the time on the highway.
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