ve spy technology

[andyman]

just found this on the net found it pretty interesting...

enables fleet owners to track and record information on all their fleet cars, and can communicate with the driver via messaging on the radio display".

the ve is going to be very interesting technology wise

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...eID=18772&vf=2

[Troy711]

i reckon its a bit of an invasion of privacy...

[andyman]

yea kinda, but if the owners (managers, buisness owners etc) want to know if there cars are being treated properly its ok as they wouldnt want to be spending unnecessary money etc

[LeBoofer]

It has benefits, and it also has disadvantages. From what Ive read, it gives the owners the option to check in on the car and usages etc.

The other technology is the upgrade of the Holden Assist, that looks pretty fandangled! Good to see Holden moving forward with the advancing technology!

[Evman]

I think it's a good idea. If I leant my car to other people I'd want to know if they'd been thrashing it or not.

[Scotty_Doesn't_Know]

i reckon its a bit of an invasion of privacy...

Wrong! Just like your employer has EVERY right to read ANY email you have ever sent or received on your work account. Your employer OWNS it, just like they own the vehicle. Remember here, we're talking purely FLEET vehicles. Not salary packaged vehicles or novated lease vehicles. If your work vehicle is supplied as part of your remuneration package, then yes - invasion of privacy becomes an issue. If it's purely a work tool, then GREAT technology I say!

[Full Spectrum]

Hmm you better be careful now when your out using the fleet car and Nicky from the printing department is with you
Step outside the Vehicle

[Dave398]

Our VZ's at work already have data recorders in them (kinda like a black box recorder). When the company first put them in there were a few sackings after blokes were found to be driving at 160 and above. At the time we did not know they were installed. There hidden in the car.

[squire_j]

i rekon it kinda depends on whether its a company car thats a tool of trade or a salary sacrifice car.

If i had this in a salary sacrifice car i'd go nuts and probably make sure i got something OTHER than a VE.

if it was in a tool of trade company car then i'd live with it. Not my car so i can understand if the owner wants to keep tabs on what i'm doin with his wheels.

[Scotty_Doesn't_Know]

i rekon it kinda depends on whether its a company car thats a tool of trade or a salary sacrifice car.

If i had this in a salary sacrifice car i'd go nuts and probably make sure i got something OTHER than a VE.

if it was in a tool of trade company car then i'd live with it. Not my car so i can understand if the owner wants to keep tabs on what i'm doin with his wheels.

Um yeah... Looks like you didn't read what I already said mate

[jules]

there are already 2 means of tracking drivers:
1. the airbag module logs key parameters on a rolling cycle over a few seconds. if you crash and the bag fires, it stores the last x seconds which the police can access and if you said you were doing 80 km/h when in fact you'd just braked from 160, you will be busted.
2. they can track your movements off your mobile phone log anyway.

both of those means are only available to the cops tho.

[squire_j]

Um yeah... Looks like you didn't read what I already said mate

haha too true. my bad

lets just say i was agreeing with you

[Marks-VY]

This is just the beginning as far as I am concerned. It won't be too long before data recorders are legislated for every new car. For those that say it is an invasion of privacy - they can take public transport. Just like speed cameras, it only affects those doing the wrong thing. How else is insurance going to remain affordable?

Two advantages come to mind immediately:
Hopefully private owners will have access to the technology, for when my kids want to borrow the car.
It will boost the resale value of the cars with a clean record (fuel economy, max revs, top speed average trip distance etc).

[Stretcher Bearer]

Emergency Services have been using them in the Sates for years to slow down morons and help with crash protection. Enough U.S. GM's ahve simlair simple black box technology that will assist.

Where it might be useful is that one time you said that prang was the other drivers fault.

Interesting to see how the data works in a court.

[Wombat]

EVMAN said "I think it's a good idea. If I leant my car to other people I'd want to know if they'd been thrashing it or not."
Does anyone else remember hearing how back in the late eighties when Corvette had the up-spec LS1 fitted with a "Valet Key"? It was a keyhole under a cover in the center console, and used a seperate key to the ignition key. It did something to the fuel injection computer and cut the power output by half (I think from something like 250kw down to just over 100kw) and also activated a speed limiter, so, presumably, when you hand it over to some spotty 17 year old parking attendant, you can activate it and he can't go and rip shit out of your pride and joy...of course, it would work equally well with your own kids..."Hey Dad, can I borrow the Corvette?" "Sure son, here's the keys...s######..."

But yes, nowadays it's scary at how simple it would be to fit a cheap data logger into any car with a computer in it...I imagine a cheap piggy back wired-in memory chip of a few hundred kilobytes would be sufficient, and probably cost as much, mass produced, as a simple memory stick does now...and don't think some pricks wouldn't be constantly thinking of a way to do it and pass it into legislation for our "own good", and it'd be a part of the random roadside breath-test/licence check system. "Have you been drinking tonight Sir? No, can I please check your licence? Thank you. Now would you mind popping the bonnet so I can quickly download your data logger details for the last month. Thanks..." The program in it wouldn't have to even be that complicated. the main part would probably be determining where you were when you were doing a certain speed...but then again, subsidised production of GPS chips would be easy too...a simple locator chip could be wired in, and then it's a matter of logging where you were, as is already done with a lot of anti-theft devices...I'd better shut up before I give them ideas...

[Stretchomatic]

man you make the future sound scary and boring...DAMN YOUSE, DAMN YOUSE ALL TO HELL!!!