ve wagon IS comming

[andyman]

was talking to the fleet management guys at work today and they said there not buying wagons until the ve wagon is released in feburary, and only mentioned the omega, but id imagine theyd still have to have a berlina... atleast?

apparantly they are in production now or starting soon?? can a holden worker confirm this

so to us wagon fans, the wagon will live on........

[1991_Vn2nV]

Well that would explain why we have pictures of it...

I dunno why anybody thought there wouldn't be a wagon?

Before the VE sedan was released people in the know were saying the Ute would be released late 07 and the wagon mid 08...Which is showing to be spot on...

Then the sedan is released and all these other people go nah theres not gonna be a wagon or ute presumably just because they had heard nothing/seen nothing... Or is it media such as Wheels and Motor trying to dumb it down so they can make a story and then another story when its released?

[STEALTHY™]

Calais V wagon is making a comeback (by comeback i mean Calais wagon from VL)


Will also be SS, SSV etc

[andyman]

Calais V wagon is making a comeback (by comeback i mean Calais wagon from VL)


Will also be SS, SSV etc

sweet,

i read some sort of review about the ute and some holden spokes person said they were determining if it was viable, but anyway i havnt heard of a definate release date so when i was told feburary i thought this community would like to know,

as for the pics i dont much notice of the cgi's as they seem to make things look out of proportion and odd

[andrewmac]

Yeh i dont think there gonna have a wagon at all and these photos prove it haha

Its HOT !!!

[STEALTHY™]

I rekon its more of a hatch than a wagon, but ohwell.

[1991_Vn2nV]

The HSV ute and Holden Wagon pics were pictures taken off a Holden presentation though so they're more accurate than the fake images made by people at home.

I wasn't having a go at you andyman, just at the people that have been saying no wagon no wagon. The February release date is good news if its true however there was no doubt anyway that the wagon IS coming.

[andrewmac]

I should also clarify the above pics are given to motor by Holden and were NOT meant to be released until next week but they stuffed up and went out to the subscribers early.
The Maloo was also revealed in the mag.

[STEALTHY™]

I should also clarify the above pics are given to motor by Holden and were NOT meant to be released until next week but they stuffed up and went out to the subscribers early.
The Maloo was also revealed in the mag.

yeah, 'we just accidentally put them out a week early'

[CSP]

The rear of the wagon is very 300C Estate...

[abuz4u]

The rear of the wagon is very 300C Estate...

i was only just thinking that myself....

[drewins]

apparantly they are in production now or starting soon?? can a holden worker confirm this

Not yet. I haven't even see one yet. I missed the pilots when they came through.

[andyman]

there appears to be no where near as much room in the back as there used to be vz etc,

but i suppose its decieving like the boots in the sedan

[1991_Vn2nV]

there appears to be no where near as much room in the back as there used to be vz etc,

but i suppose its decieving like the boots in the sedan

Its 100mm shorter than VZ I think.. I think its Motor magazine has the interior volumes. Still like double what the 300C has, but it is less than the VZ wagon.

[Reaper]

Its 100mm shorter than VZ I think.. I think its Motor magazine has the interior volumes. Still like double what the 300C has, but it is less than the VZ wagon.

The VE wagon is built on the sedan wheel base. I don't quite understand that decision myself but still might be in the market for one next car.

Reaper

[gargougaflex]

latest Wheels magazine (the one with the SSV on the front) also mentions it's shorter design, which I did mention way b4 the big site crash ...

basically Holden know ppl aren't buying "conventional" wagons and are heading for SUV's, so Holden's wanting to tackle a different market - ie the Sportswagon, things like Subaru Liberty/Impreza, those kinda cars, and yeah, the 300C as well...

and the magazine states the SS will get the same wheels and engine as the sedan (no less kW like they did for the Adventra) and will also be available in both auto and Manual... (hello SS-V Wag with a Clutch!)

[calais_cruzin]

The Chrome strip on the boot looks wierd, just dont look right eh.

It mite look a bit better if there was another strip just above the bumper tho, i think......

[STEALTHY™]

latest Wheels magazine (the one with the SSV on the front) also mentions it's shorter design, which I did mention way b4 the big site crash ...

basically Holden know ppl aren't buying "conventional" wagons and are heading for SUV's, so Holden's wanting to tackle a different market - ie the Sportswagon, things like Subaru Liberty/Impreza, those kinda cars, and yeah, the 300C as well...

and the magazine states the SS will get the same wheels and engine as the sedan (no less kW like they did for the Adventra) and will also be available in both auto and Manual... (hello SS-V Wag with a Clutch!)

You could already get an SS wagon with a clutch in VY.

The big news here is Calais V Wagon, they better offer a manual version for them aswell.

[Reaper]

You could already get an SS wagon with a clutch in VY.

The big news here is Calais V Wagon, they better offer a manual version for them aswell.

The VY was a limited run. I wanted one of those cars but they had all gone. I don't think there will be a manual Calais version. GM will suggest you get a SS-V if you want manual.

Reaper

[STEALTHY™]

The VY was a limited run. I wanted one of those cars but they had all gone. I don't think there will be a manual Calais version. GM will suggest you get a SS-V if you want manual.

Reaper

Yeah i'm not holding my breath.

I suppose i could tick all the boxes on an SSV, but it doesn't seem as 'classy' as having a Manual 6L Calais V wagon.

[evil_monkey]

i did hear not long ago that they compleatly stopped production of the VZ wagons and utes so i guess that means they are gearing up to produce the wagon now ?

[greenfoam]

I like it, I'd prefer to buy the wagon over the sedan, much more usefull and doesn't look like it will weigh anymore. Seems to be as close to a Hatchback as Holden is willing to make

[Reaper]

Yeah i'm not holding my breath.

I suppose i could tick all the boxes on an SSV, but it doesn't seem as 'classy' as having a Manual 6L Calais V wagon.

The biggest difference will be the instrument cluster. I'd get the white illumination over the red if it were an option.

Reaper

[andrewmac]

This is a complete assumption but one of the reasons to choose the SWB over the LWB would be in keeping with the "sports" image cause no doubt the shorter the car is it would handle better.
Theres that and if it is competing with SUV's it i more attractive and still has more space than most SUV's.
I did hear a while ago that apparently the wagon handled better than the sedan but that will soon be revealed.

[batemada]

I prefer driving a wagon over a sedan, epecially helpfull being as i play bass in a brass band that can take up half a wagon boot by itself. it is not an easy thing to fit in the boot of a sedan as i am finding with my 04 VY sedan.