shouldn't be too hard to DIY given that you just need some square LED clusters (e.g. from truck/trailer led tail lights).
what car is it for???
it seems to be a standard tail light replacement check out their store they have heaps more and if its for a vl you will only need clear ones unless you have alteeza lenses (ewyuk)
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PAIR-NEW-12v-...item35a5b645e8
these look like they will fit vl rear indicators ask the seller a question.
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I'm pretty sure they will work as they are just a globe replacement e.g. no wiring or mods nesessary, and they draw less power than standard globes too. I'm not a big fan of the light board type either I don't want the vl to look like a truck trailer, the only thing I can suggest is ask the seller AND ask someone you trust who maybe in the know as it is a bit of money just for globes and I figure if this guy is selling them then what do our local auto parts suppliers have available?
also as silly as it sounds we need to look at the legal side of things too. are they a DEFECT?
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Yeah i emailed the bloke and this is the response i got
hi there
merry xmas, as to the flashing fast this is all dependant on which flasher can you have in the vehicle, you can see how the vehicle will flash as can do a test by removing one of your indicator globes and then turn on indicators and how it flashers with 1 globe out will be how fast it will flash when leds are installed so if flashes normal or fast that is how it will flash though if flashes fast then this can be rectified by fitting a led flasher can or load resistors which we offer also in our ebay store.
as for seeing the leds through the lens this will depend on the thickness of your lens, stand at rear of vehicle and look at lens, if you can see globe through the lens then this is also how will look when you have the leds fitted.
kind regards
paul
So this is what i gather from that reply that they will not blink faster and if you cant see your globe through the plastic you wont see the little LED's? And i dont want my vl to look like a truck trailer either. Also i highly doubt you could get defected becuase realistically its a bit safer aslong as its not f*** off bright
I would be wary about getting the "LED" type brake / tail globes. I have been through 3 sets (including 1set of SMD) and they were either duller than the standard globes or didnt work with the Commodore wiring (VY).
LED is light emitting diode, typical dome looking light
SMD is surface mount diode, flat LED
CREE is a better type of LED with a much higher output of light
I have since bought a set of CREE / SMD tail lights from ebay and these are the best I have seen so far. They work very well and are brighter than standard. They have SMD's around the sides for putting light on the reflectors in the newer cars brake / tail lights plus have a CREE light which shines directly out.
Just be aware that you may have to put a load resistor across one of the brake lights so that your cruise control will work. Not having this resistance will cause the computer to throw an error and it will make cruise control disabled. VX, VY, VZ will do this (unsure about other models) For sedans you can go off the eye level brake light as it is easier to get to and wire up.
I have CREE / SMD in every spot bar the headlights. The indicators required a different flasher relay (prevents speed flashing)
1st pic- Brown/White stripe and Blue wire with the load resistor put in parallel (this was test phase so wiring isnt completed). Purchased from Autobarn for $15. Can get them cheaper off the net but I needed it that day.
2nd Pic- Tail lights
3rd Pic- Brake lights
4th Pic- Indicator
These have even been checked by the local cops and there was no issue. Even had a "nice work" for the upgrade. All globes are easy to see during bright sunlight.
Hope that helps
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Cree is a brand, not a type of LED. They are just LEDs that are fairly high power (a couple of watts instead of <100mW) and usually require a heatsink to keep them cool. If you put 12 high power LEDs on one "globe" it would probably melt your taillight housings lol.
Thats right, much better output. The heatsink is contained around the cree light and the SMD lights are behind it. Not much heat output but does get a little warm. Would be interesting to see a whole heap of them to see how much heat does get generated
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